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Re: Possible draft non-free firmware option with SC change



On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 08:23:22PM +0000, Bill Allombert wrote:
> > The problem is caused by hardware manufacturer chosing to require
> > non-free works for their use.  The blame for that choice lies on the
> > hardware manufacturer, not on Debian.  Accepting the blame for someone
> > else's choices and taking on the responsibility solve the consequences
> > of that choice seems misguided to me.  It makes it harder for users to
> > experience the frustration of such hardware themselves.  I disagree they
> > always get the non-free installer eventually: some end up learning about
> > the problem and chose better hardware.  Some end up reverse engineering
> > their hardware, and contributing to a free solution.  Some dislike other
> > distributions taking a less rigid stance on non-free works, and will
> > come up with work-arounds to get Debian to work on the hardware.  If
> > Debian takes on itself to solve the problems with non-free hardware, I
> > think we are in more difficult position to ask for a change.
> 
> Seconded.
> We fought against lack of Linux drivers, then against the lack of free
> drivers. Now, since in a lot of situation it is not tenable not to
> provide Linux drivers (because Linux is the dominant server OS),
> since it is not tenable to provide only non-free drivers (because
> entreprise distros do not ship them), the move is toward smaller and
> smaller drivers loading larger and larger non-free firmware.
> 
> Debian should not trick users into downloading non-free files.
Do you too agree with the position that having non-free firmware stored in
your hardware is better than having it loaded from your OS?

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WBR, wRAR

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