On Thu, Sep 08, 2022 at 11:38:09AM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: > Kurt Roeckx <kurt@roeckx.be> writes: > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 10:39:57AM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: > >> Thereby re-inforcing the interpretation that any installer or image with > >> non-free software on it is not part of the Debian system > > > > As you indicate yourself, this is an interpretation of the SC. I would > > really prefer that such a question was not open to interpretation and > > that the SC was changed to make it more clear what we mean. > > > > I don't actually understand what this part of your text is saying. Are > > you saying that an image with non-free software on it is non-official > > because it's not part of the Debian system? That is not something I read > > in that text. > > I don't think the word "official" is defined or used in any foundational > document, nor that its meaning is well agreed on or actually helps the > discussion. It seems easier to talk about what is considered part of > the Debian system or not: the foundation documents imply (to me) that > anything not following DFSG is not part of Debian. Therefor, an > installer that includes non-free content would not be part of Debian. > That does not prevent the project from distributing it, we do that today > and we distribute non-free/contrib today too without trouble. > > For me it helps to think that what the Debian project ships is a > superset of what is considered to be the Debian system. Policy on the other hand is very explicit (perhaps unintentionally): > The Debian system is maintained and distributed as a collection of packages. > The main archive area forms the Debian distribution. By that definition, no installation media are part of the Debian system and so are already permitted to use non-free components? Obviously Policy is "lower" in interpretation value that Constitution or Social Contract. It also has a note about "component", and I'd point out the term "section" is often used too (see rewording of Proposal C). > The Debian archive software uses the term “component” internally and > in the Release file format to refer to the division of an archive. The > Debian Social Contract simply refers to “areas.” This document uses > terminology similar to the Social Contract.
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