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Re: Draft proposal for resolution process change (v2)

Hi Russ,

* Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> [2021-10-05 21:16]:
I'm somewhat surprised that there has been no discussion of the timing of
the GR discussion period, which I expected to be more controversial.  The
scheme I'm proposing is relatively complex but allows the discussion
period to vary from 1 week to 4 weeks based on how much ballot option
activity there is and based on DPL actions.  If anyone is unhappy with
that (if, for example, you think it's too complex or 4 weeks is too short
or too long), now would be a good time to bring that up so that we can
discuss it.
Thank you very much for the reminder, and allow me to add my two

The Debian Constitution, like most good constitutions, has this nice
power hierarchy: at the lower end of the spectrum, a single
maintainer can act quickly as they see fit, but with limited scope
and subject to the Constitution and the Policy. (The DPL is not
unlike a maintainer for the debian-project package in this regard).
At the upper end, the assembly of all developers has basically
unlimited powers via GR, but requires exensive deliberations and a
certain amount of time to decide. The Tech-CTTE is somewhere in the

In a sense, the GR is the Ultimate Weapon for large-scale decisions
beyond the scope of a single maintainer, a group of maintainers, or
any other constitutional entity. As such, I regard a certain
cumbersomeness as a feature, not a bug. I believe it is more
important to have a well-understood, very predictable process that
ensures all voices are heard, even if it sacrifices flexibility. We
already have the DPL and other delegated teams to deal with more
urgent issues.

I'd prefer a fixed N week discussion period for some reasonable N
over any scheme that depends on DD oder DPL actions and may easily
become subject to rule gaming. At the most, I would add a provision
to extend the discussion period under certain circumstances if N is
relatively small. This way, any DD can anticipate the voting period
well in advance and adjust their personal schedule accordingly to
make sure they can vote if the issue is important to them.

And if we identify any topic that requires more urgent decisions on
a regular basis, I think the GR should not become a micro management
tool but delegate the necessary power the DPL or some other entity.


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