Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> writes:
> On Thursday, January 12, 2017 02:26:59 PM Sean Whitton wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 03:11:46AM +0000, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> > Here's an example of possible unintended consequences:
>> >
>> > Currently we enumerate no specifics about exceptions to when things
>> > should be public. Once we have a foundational list of acceptable
>> > reasons to not be public (security would be the only one), then it's
>> > easy to infer that's the complete list.
>> >
>> > Would this GR prohibit the tech ctte practice of private deliberations
>> > about recommendations for new members? I think it might.
>> >
>> > I've worked in private with other DDs to resolve disputes within the
>> > project. Often a quiet conversation out of the public glare can make
>> > solutions possible that wouldn't happen if all discussion was public.
>> > Does this GR prohibit that? Maybe.
>>
>> Thank you for your e-mail -- I now understand your objection.
>>
>> All the other wording in clause 3 is about bug reports against the
>> Debian system. The examples that you give are about unresolved issues
>> in the Debian project -- disputes between people, rather than problems
>> in source and binary packages. I find the line between the Debian
>> system and the Debian project to be fairly sharp. I'd be interested to
>> hear if you disagree.
>>
>> The header of clause 3 ("We will not hide problems") admittedly could
>> refer to your examples. Would it help if my GR text were amended to
>> append "in the Debian system" to the header of the clause?
>
> That then has the opposite problem. It clearly narrows the notion of not
> hiding problems and I don't think that's good either.
>
> I'm still at don't monkey with foundational documents to solve
> non-problems.
Quite.
I'm yet to be convinced that there exists anyone that would be upset by
the fact that our security team might abide by embargoes in supposed
defiance of 'not hide problems'. I am also not convinced that if there
does exist such a person, and they are capable of becoming upset enough
about it to be driven away from Debian, that that would be a great loss.
Cheers, Phil.
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