On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 09:57:35AM +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > There isn't just Manoj that work on Manoj's packages (QA team, Security > team, Derivative distro... and our users!) They can use standard interfaces to modify the package, should they want to. Manoj does the same. > BTW, does Manoj own those package? Yes. > As I wrote those lines, I wonder if some developer don't precisely use > home made stuff to say "keep out, this is my own package". If that were the case, that would be bad. But I don't think that Manoj is doing this; he's doing it because it works better for him. And that's fully his right. > > > As long as the result is good -- a working, policy-compliant package > > -- how he gets that result is not your business. > > Isn't Debian an organisation (with 1000+ developers)? Yes, and? > > (not the dpkg-dev tools necessarily) like dpkg-divert. I > > personally think this is a bug and I'd like to see the low-level > > documentation of the exact deb format, for instance, in Policy, but it's a > > very low priority compared to lots of other Policy work. > > > Now of course if one orphans one's package or can't maintain it properly > > (lots of RC bugs, etc.), then I think redoing the packaging design is fair > > game once QA comes into play. Were Manoj to orphan a package, I suspect > > it's quite likely that whoever picked it up would convert it to debhelper, > > and that's fine. If I adopted a package maintained in bzr, one of the > > first things I'd do is convert the VCS repository to Git. But as long as > > the package is staying with its current maintainer and that maintainer is > > doing a good job, I think the obligation of that maintainer is to satisfy > > the interfaces, and what tools they use to do that is their business. > > What about Debian users who need to modify a package for special needs? > What about peer review of the packages? > What about other teams in Debian? (nmu, porters...) > What about derivatives? > What about upstream review of his packages? (there isn't just patches). That can all be done. There's nothing in Manoj's packages that makes it impossible to do so. -- The biometric identification system at the gates of the CIA headquarters works because there's a guard with a large gun making sure no one is trying to fool the system. http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/01/biometrics.html
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