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Re: Technical committee resolution



On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:06:07 +1000, Anthony Towns <aj@azure.humbug.org.au> said: 

> On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 09:12:54AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Redoing the new blood thing once again is unlikely to have much of an
>> effect, really. I think we need to find some of the root causes of
>> the malaise that affects this institution, and fix that, rather than
>> rampaging around rearranging things randomly like a bull in a china
>> shop.

> What do you believe these "root causes" are?

        I do not presume to be omniscient. But I believe lack of time,
  which is reflected in lack of contribution to the debate on a topic,
  and, even worse, lack of participation in the voting effort, is
  definitely a root cause, and with associated indicators.

> Why do you think that structural to increase both external
> accountability will have no positivie effect?

        I think this is a very poor implementation of an oversight.

        You are restricting the ability of the DPL to only deal with the
 oldest, rather than the worst perdorming, ctte members;  and provide
 little incentive to hit the ground running for new folks.

        Under the original proposal, the DPL can either ratify, or
 replace, _only_ the two oldest members; instead of the ability to
 replace any missing member.  I think that is ill advised. 

> Why do you think that turnover within the committee, and the
> flexibility that brings both in regards to any personality disputes
> there may be, or any ingrained bad practices there may be, will have
> no positive effect?

        Churn is not flexibility. Churn is churn.


> Given introducing new blood has already had positive effect, why do
> you believe it is unlikely more new blood will have any significant
> positive effect?

        Actually, I think removing inactive members has had more
 positive effect than the new blood, really, and the data is not present
 to disambiguate these two theseses,

        So yes, I reject the presentation of the new blood thesis as fact.

> Why do you think having two new members a year appointed by the DPL is
> "rampaging around like a bull in a china shop"?

        Because there is no rhyme or reason on how the people being
 replaced are selected. I don't think tying the DPL's hands by
 providing a "get out of jail card" (or is the new fangled 'Survivor'
 lingo "safety card"?) helps matters any.


        manoj

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