On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 09:46:16AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I'd be interested in hearing more specifics on how you think it's > disfunctional and why you think this change will fix the problems that you > see. I think I have a vague idea of how you're connecting the dots, but > I'd rather not try to read your mind. :) You don't need to read my mind, you can read Ian's recent post on the topic, eg: http://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2008/03/msg00000.html Otherwise you could have a look at the ctte's open bugs, such as #436093. Or you could look at the tech-ctte's lack of ability to help resolve contentious issues in general, such as the conflict involving Sven the year before last, or the tech-ctte's involvement in technical improvement of Debian before a conflict exists. Or you could look at the value of past decisions made by the ctte, via the ctte web page www.debian.org/devel/tech-ctte. At present the technical committee is both one of the most powerful bodies in Debian -- it can overrule any maintainer on any topic; and the least accountable -- it can only be overruled by a supermajority vote, and changes in the committee can only be proposed by the committee itself. In practice that means removals only happen when someone has been demonstrably absent for a long time and has no interest in remaining on, and additions only happen when enough people are removed that it becomes a problem. I've brought problems before the technical committee in the past -- both what should be done in response to the "editorial amendments" GR [0], and a dispute of severities with Branden [1], in both cases resulting in no action or assistance from the ctte [2]; having been on the ctte for two years, and tried to make some changes from within it [3] I still don't think bringing issues before the ctte is something I could recommend as productive, and without either any external accountability, or the ability to get new blood onto the committee without existing members disappearing or being effectively indicted for gross incompetence, I don't think that will change. Cheers, aj [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2004/04/msg00009.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2004/06/msg00033.html [1] http://bugs.debian.org/96761 [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2004/06/msg00033.html http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=97671#156 [3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2006/02/msg00002.html
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