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Re: A question to the Debian community ...



I think it's worth one more response to say that I simply do not agree
that this problem is somehow horribly embarassing, unexpected, or a sign
of a fundamental deficiency in the Debian project.  There are other things
that *are* signs of fundamental deficiencies in the project, but I don't
think this is one of them.

Sven Luther <luther@debian.org> writes:

> So, you don't believe in solving the problem which is causing the noise
> in the first place ?

I don't believe it's possible to solve it in the way that would satisfy
everyone and thereby eliminate the noise without fundamentally changing
human nature or brainwashing people.

> Or maybe you do not believe Debian is capable of growing up, and find an
> answer to such situations which don't deal with shoting up one party ?

This isn't growing up, nor is it a lack of maturity.  These aren't
problems that are somehow unusually common in Debian because Debian
doesn't have social maturity.  These are the sorts of problems I've seen
in every workplace or open source project that I've been in, given the
presence of personality conflicts (which eventually always happen when
enough people are involved), and there usually isn't a solution.  Someone
in a position of power makes a decision that is often more or less
arbitrary and people either decide to live with it or leave.  Around that
process, there is inevitably a ton of noise, but it always comes down to
the same thing in the end.

The difference in a professional workplace is that the people in authority
aren't shy to make decisions, make them much earlier and faster, and
enforce them in a considerably more draconian fashion than Debian does.

-- 
Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org)               <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>



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