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Re: [Amendement firmware GR] - Best effort / no regression

#include <hallo.h>
* Bill Allombert [Fri, Sep 22 2006, 12:33:28AM]:
> Dear Debian developers,
> As an amendement to the firmware GR, I hereby propose the following
> position statement.
> ===============================================
>         1. reaffirms its dedication to providing a 100% free system to
> our users according to our Social Contract and the DFSG; and
>         2. encourages licensors of all works to make those works
> available not only under licenses that permit modification, but also in
> forms that make such modifications practical;
>         3. commits itself to remove firmwares without source code and
> more generally firmwares that does not meet the Debian Free Software
> Guidelines (designed below as "non-free firmwares") from the main and
> contrib section of our archive;

That's non-sense. Since we do not even agree on the nature of firmwares
WRT to DFSG, how can we judge based on that terms?

>         4. will make a best effort to remove as much non-free firmwares
> as time allows before our next stable release (code-named "Etch"); 

Same here, non-sense. There is no definition of "best-effort" which we
could use to measure the "best" mark. You will get trollish bug reports
every week if this is accepted.

>         5. encourages its developers to work on this issue;
>         6. urges its developers not to delay or to block inclusion of
> works done toward that goal;

Out of context here. How do you want to encourage or urge them? By
paying money?

>         7. will allow our next release to include non-free firmwares
> in the main section if we did not manage to remove them on time, provided 
> they were also present in Sarge main section.

"We do not become more dirty than we already are" logics instead of
clarification of the decission ways. By the same logics we should start
getting non-free GFDL docs back into main.

<thomax_> hallo, ich habe probleme mit artscontrol unter debian unstable.
	bekomme ein SIGSEGV beim ausfuehren. kann das hier jemand bestaetigen?
<Alfie> thomax_: Ja, Du bekommst einen SIGSEGV beim ausführen.

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