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Re: Firmware & Social Contract: GR proposal

On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 12:32:15PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > working out for us. The ballot that chose the current social contract
> > didn't have any alternatives included, and was conducted immediately
> > following the constitutional amendment to allow voting on non-free
> > removal, the non-free removal debate itself and then the DPL elections,
> > with only minimal discussion on -vote, most of which occurred prior to
> > the non-free vote.
> It was ratified by a large majority though, and i clearly remember 4-5 options
> on that ballot.

There was a second ballot, which had six options on it, namely "delay
the SC change until Sept 1st 2004", "delay the SC change until sarge
releases", "apologise", "revert to SC 1.0", "create a transition guide
for the SC and DFSG", "reaffirm the new SC".

The last option failed to achieve even a simple majority (188 ranked
it below further discussion, 155 ranked it above), each of the other
options achieved a 2:1 supermajority, but only the "delay the SC change"
options achieved the required 3:1 supermajority.

> Well, i believe that both of them basically said the same thing. 

Yes, we've had that discussion; the key point is you used the word
"software" to cover more of the contents of main, than others did.

> > I think:
> >     (b) The term "software" as used in the Social Contract shall be
> >         presumed only to cover programs, scripts, libraries and similar
> >         executable works to be executed directly as part of the Debian
> >         System.
> And the rest is what ? Hardware ? 

Firmware, documentation, images, sounds, videos, fonts, etc.

> Indeed, then [why] come back on the software vs program thingy, and retriger
> another 3+ month of discussion and voting ? 

Because we don't have an alternative social contract that we understand
well, and can adopt immediately without being in violation of it; and we
can't get a new social contract that we understand well without spending
some time to discuss it.


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