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Re: calling firmware code data is not being honest with ourselves, includes counterproposal and RFC on a possible Amendment

On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 10:59:25PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> David Nusinow <david_nusinow@verizon.net> writes:
> > On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 10:41:00PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> >> David Nusinow <david_nusinow@verizon.net> writes:
> >> 
> >> > Would you, or someone else, mind pointing out some examples of firmware
> >> > with source? Preferrably with some of the breadth you refer to above? I
> >> > understand firmware in concept, but beyond seeing it as a binary blob I've
> >> > not really come seriously in to contact with it. If I'm going to vote on
> >> > this issue, I'd really like to actually understand what I'm going to be
> >> > voting on.
> >> 
> >> I think it's widely in agreement that hardware manufacturers have
> >> assemblers and other tools they use for building firmware.
> >
> > So we don't have any firmware with source?
> I have no idea.  I have heard people in this discussion *define*
> firmware in terms of the absence of source.

Nope, there exist some such, there where even mentioned around here.


Sven Luther

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