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Re: Question to all candidates about stable point releases

Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 01:02:20PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> > Though Martin 'Joey' Schulze as stable release manager presents lists of
> > packages that are accepted into the next stable point release on a
> > regular basis, they normally are not released "roughly two months after
> > the last update" (which is the official plan).
> > 
> > Do you know why this doesn't work as planned? What would you do to 
> > make regular point releases possible?
> The biggest part of the reason here that actually doing the releases
> take a fair bit of work to implement with the current infrastructure.


> Changes are currently being implemented to improve the handling of
> proposed-updates, in order to have those point releases happing more

Could you explain how the changes could help providing a stable update
mor often, when...

> easily. It'll still require an ftp-master to find the time to do it, and
> there can be any number of reasons why nobody finds the time to do it --

...there's still an ftp-master needed and ftp-master is not devoting time
to this task?

> Debian being volunteer-driven as it is. I personally don't think it's a
> huge issue if those point releases are not 100% regular, because for the
> majority it's security updates, but it's still good to have them not too
> far apart, esp. for those updates that are not also already distributed
> via security.debian.org. With significantly less effort required each
> time from the side of ftp-master, I think stable point releases can
> happen more regularly. There can be other ways to improve too, but not

> by direct intervention from the DPL role -- a DPL should not want to
> micro-manage.

That's a great answer.

For the record:

Feb 6th: SRM sends mail to ftp-master trying to negotiate a timeline
Mar 5th: SRM sends another mail since nobody replied to the old one
Mar 5th: aj complains that nobody answered his mail from Feb 22 about
         modificating proposed-updates

Still no word from ftp-master if or when the next stable update can
be implemented.  As usual, the SRM is left in vain and pain.



Given enough thrust pigs will fly, but it's not necessarily a good idea.

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