Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract
On 9 Feb 2006, Christopher Martin told this:
> You're stuck in a loop. I know perfectly well that to change a
> foundation document requires 3:1, but the question is, who decides
> what is and is not a contradiction or change to the foundation
> documents and so needs 3:1? You? The Secretary? Someone has to, and
> I think the developers should. Because in the end, if the
> developers go completely mad and decide that EVERYTHING IS DFSG
> FREE, 3:1 won't stop them for long. They could just elect a
> like-minded DPL, replace the Secretary with someone more pliant,
> hold another vote...
Please feel free to start the proceedings. Until then, I
shall continue to act in a manner which I feel is a correct
interpretation of my constitutional duties.
> The point is, you either trust the developers
> to be sane, or you don't and therefore think that you, or someone
> who agrees with you, should simply decide things by fiat. I don't
> accept that.
As I have said, I do not see this as a matter of trust or
honor or any of those things. I see this as a correctness of ballot
issue.
> And it is quite possible for the developers to want to
> change/suspend the foundation documents, while being perfectly aware
> of what they're doing. Hence 3:1. Like in the vote to delay the
> "editorial changes" until post-Sarge. See, the system can work.
>
>> Of course, the people who wanted the 3:1 supermajority are largely
>> those who wanted to keep non-free in the Debian archive. In this
>> way, the necessary changes to the Social Contract could be
>> defeated. Ah, now it turns out that this works both ways.
>> Suddenly we hear calls for strict majoritarianism.
>
> I have no idea what you're talking about. Nobody is calling for
> "strict majoritarianism". What is being called for is that the
> developers be allowed to decide issues of interpretation of the
> DFSG, as is their prerogative.
Adedato's amendment seeks to interpret the DFSG, and is being
``allowed'' to do so. Interpretation of the DFSG is not the
isseu. However, something that contravenese a clear dictum of the
DFSG is a different story.
manoj
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