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Re: Red-tops, was: Clarification about krooger's platform



Scripsit MJ Ray <mjr@dsl.pipex.com>

> Why? There are more than a few similarities, by luck or not:

I cannot recognize DWN at all in your description.

> * Neither feels that the groups it reports on are their main
>   audience.

As far as I can see, the main audience of DWN is Debian developers,
package maintainers, and other members of the community. This audience
is exactly whom they report on.

> * Any item included in either has to be sexy enough to match
>   the red top and that means accuracy sometimes gets left out.

Huh? The "red top" you are referring to is the global www.d.o
navigation bar? Do you think the navigation bar is sexy?
In which way does a DWN item need to "match" that?

> * They are not afraid to pull cunning stunts like reporting
>   statements single-sourced from fairly new contributors as if
>   it's a consensus view of a group, or "inflating" articles with
>   inaccurate or irrelevant spin.

The usual DWN story includes links to what people actually said on the
mailing lists, and explicitly phrase their summaries as "N.N. said
so-and-so" rather than "the consensus is so-and-so".

> * They have friends who get puffed regularly, but "good news"
>   stories about groups on the blacklist can get ignored and/or
>   stuffed at the bottom of the issue.

Huh? Which "groups" do you perceive as being blacklisted by DWN? Could
it be that there are simply no readers of the relevant mailing lists
who regularly report news to the DWN editors?

> * The editors take the traditional approach of completely ignoring
>   most criticism and either accusing the complainer or trying to
>   game them in the broken system.

Huh? This accusation demands to be substantiated by references to
mailing list posts where Joey or any other DWN editor accuses someone
who complains about their editorial policy of "trying to game them in
the broken system".

> Even I could, but it's better just to ignore DWN most of the time.

I wouldn't want to miss it.

> It's worrying that other groups think similar "Newsletter of Record"
> publications will help them and so make rods for their own backs.

Dude, what is your *problem*?

-- 
Henning Makholm                          "What has it got in its pocketses?"



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