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Re: Alternate proposal for Declassification of debian-private archives

My biggest problem with all this is that it's gonna mean a lot of work -
for the 'declassifying team' and for people who want to be bothered
about commenting on the process is respect of particular email. Thats
time that I feel could be better spent.

I do understand the motives...


On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 08:32:59AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Hi,
> Rationale:
> 	I have been thinking about the kinds of reasons for not
>  wanting to have a post to -private published. I came up with two
>  major (reasonable) scenarios:
>   a) The post contained sensitive material.
>         In this case, if a reasonable case has been made for the
>         material being sensitive, and one that the declassification
>         teams accepted, then the material should be redacted from the
>         post, and every post it has been quoted in. If it is sensitive
>         in one post, it is sensitive in another.
>   b) I do not want to be associated with the post in question
>         In other words, if this showed up in google it may hurt my
>         future job prospects post ;-). In this case, the post can be
>         published, just every identifying  bit about the author needs
>         be redacted from this post and the quotes.
>  This latter action would, in my opinion, allow more of some
>  informative, though heated, discussions to be available to posterity
>  <grin>.
>         Also, we are, in effect, considering retroactively overturning
>  a published privacy policy; I think that we do need to state up front
>  that the copyright holders wishes would be heeded, even when the post
>  in question is quoted in other emails.
>         Here is a diff from AJ's proposal. I am now formally seeking
>  seconds for this modified proposal, which has explicit guidelines for
>  the most common case for not wantng the posts to be published.
>         manoj
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> In accordance with principles of openness and transparency, Debian will
> seek to declassify and publish posts of historical or ongoing significance
> made to the Debian Private Mailing List.
> This process will be undertaken under the following constraints:
>   * The Debian Project Leader will delegate one or more volunteers
>     to form the "debian-private declassification team".
>   * The team will automatically declassify and publish posts made to
>     that list that are three or more years old, with the following
>     exceptions:
>     - the author and other individuals quoted in messages being reviewed
>       will be contacted, and allowed between four and eight weeks
>       to comment;
>     - posts that reveal financial information about individuals or
>       organisations other than Debian, will have that information
>       removed;
> -   - requests by the author of a post for that post not to be published
> -     will be honoured;
> +   - If the author makes a resonable case that some material is
> +     sensitive, then that material is redacted from that post and any
> +     other post where it has been quoted
> +
> +   - If the author indicates he does not wish to be associated with a
> +     post, any identifying information is redacted from that post, 
> +     and any quotes in subsequent posts, but the rest of the material
> +     is published.
>     - posts of no historical or other relevance, such as vacation
> -     announcements, or posts that have no content after personal
> +     announcements, or posts that have no content after
>       information is removed, will not be published, unless the author
>       requests they be published;
>     - comments by others who would be affected by the publication of
>       the post will also be taken into account by the declassification
>       team;
>     - the list of posts to be declassified will be made available to
>       developers two weeks before publication, so that the decisions
>       of the team may be overruled by the developer body by General
>       Resolution, if necessary -- in the event such a resolution is
>       introduced (ie, proposed and sponsored), the declassification
>       and publication of messages specified by the resolution will be
>       deferred until the resolution has been voted on.
> ---
> -- 
> Happiness adds and multiplies as we divide it with others.
> Manoj Srivastava   <srivasta@debian.org>  <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/>
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