On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 05:00:12PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 09:48:46AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 10:11:24AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au>: > > > > i propose an amendment that deletes everything but clause 1 of this > > > > proposal, > > > > so that the entire proposal now reads: > > > > > > > > that the amendments to the Social Contract contained within the > > > > General Resolution "Editorial Amendments To The Social Contract" > > > > (2004 vote 003) be immediately rescinded. > > > > > I second this proposal. > > > > > While I'm convinced that it wasn't meant as such (contrary to some > > > remarks I've previously made on IRC), the title of the 003 GR was > > > deceptive, and may have been at the cause of the current outcome. It's > > > only fair to do it again, even if I agree with most of the changes in > > > the GR. > > If you agree with most of the changes in the GR, wouldn't it be better > > to propose something that fixes the parts you don't agree with, rather > > than seconding an amendment doesn't represent your actual views? > No. One important part of voting over issues is "communication". > Communicate to the people that are going to vote exactly _what_ they're > voting on, and give them enough information to make up their own mind > about the issue. If there aren't enough people who actually object to the new SC that stand up and second Craig's amendment, I think that's a pretty clear indication that there was nothing improper about the outcome of the previous vote. There's been a lot of mailing list noise about the result, but it looks like you're the first to actually second Craig's amendment. <shrug> Which is certainly allowed, but I think you're mistaken if you think people are going to want to repeal these SC modifications and then start the process over -- if you have ideas about what's wrong with the new SC, I would appreciate it if you voiced those now. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer
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