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Re: Proposal - Deferment of Changes from GR 2004-003



Hi,

I will second this proposal.

Bye
Cesar Mendoza
http://www.kitiara.org
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Have a kleenex, Bill."
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On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 08:41:35PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
> The Debian Project,
> 
> affirming its committment to principles of freeness for all works it
> distributes,
> 
> but recognizing that changing the Social Contract today would have grave
> consequences for the upcoming stable release, a fact which does not
> serve our goals or the interests of our users,
> 
> hereby resolves:
> 
> 1. that the amendments to the Social Contract contained within the
>    General Resolution "Editorial Amendments To The Social Contract"
>    (2004 vote 003) be immediately rescinded;
> 2. that these amendments, which have already been ratified by the Debian
>    Project, will be reinstated effective as of September 1, 2004 without
>    further cause for deliberation.
> 
> 
> Rationale: 
> 
> As a seconder of the earlier GR, I certainly do consider these
> amendments to be editorial in nature, as they are consistent with my
> understanding of the existing Social Contract; and I believe these
> clarifications are beneficial in the long term, because the ambiguities
> in the Social Contract led mostly to sterile arguments about whether the
> DFSG *should* apply to works we distribute that are not programs.
> 
> It's just the timing that sucks.
> 
> In talking with the Release Manager, it is apparent to me that his
> understanding of the previous wording of the Social Contract, while
> different from mine, is internally consistent; and that attempting to
> persuade him that a different interpretation should have held would do
> nothing to move the release forward, as I cannot in good conscience
> argue that he should be less principled in the enforcement of the Social
> Contract than he has been to date.  I am therefore putting forth this
> proposal because my *own* principles hold that releasing sarge this year
> with the same blemishes that have existed since the beginning is better
> than releasing a sarge next year that has no non-DFSG content.
> 
> A fixed four month period should (based on current projections) give us
> ample time to release sarge, while not allowing so much time that
> maintainers are left to think that resolving the status of non-program
> components of Debian vis à vis the DFSG is not an imminent concern.
> 
> I realize that others have other prospective GRs in progress, but I
> believe that it's important to bring a quick resolution to the current
> situation, and would therefore like to be able to start the clock on the
> discussion period ASAP.  I am looking for seconds for this proposal, or
> barring that, amendments.
> 
> -- 
> Steve Langasek
> postmodern programmer


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