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Re: Proposal: Call 'amendments' 'alternatives'

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 20:16:39 +0000, MJ Ray <mjr@dsl.pipex.com> said: 

> On 2004-02-26 18:11:27 +0000 Nathanael Nerode <neroden@twcny.rr.com>
> wrote:

>> It also fits the English-language meaning better.

> How? We can have amendments that don't delete the entire text of a
> proposal. However, if I read A.3 right, there does seem to be a
> limitation in the current vote system that only one amendment can
> succeed. So, I wondered, how are orthogonal amendments handled?

	On separate ballots? There was a discussion on this list
 earlier on where it was decided that independent issues needed to be
 on separate ballots, or else ewe have 
  a) A only
  b) B only
  c) A + B
  d) default option

 kind of ballots, which can rapidly get out of hand as the number of
 such independent options multiply.

>  From http://www.debian.org/vote/howto_proposal#amend, it looks like
> whether amendments are alternatives or not is the choice of the
> proposer, but I'm not sure whether that's written in the SRP. That
> page says "When the call for the vote of the proposal comes, the
> proposer of the original proposal calls for the vote on the
> amendments singly, all together or together with the original
> proposal".

	That HOWTO is not the authoritative source on how GR's are

> Meanwhile, the SRP says "The person who calls for a vote states what
> they believe the wordings of the resolution and any relevant
> amendments are, and consequently what form the ballot should
> take. However, the final decision on the form of ballot(s) is the
> Secretary's - see 7.1(1), 7.1(3) and A.3(4)." 7.1(1) says the
> secretary takes votes; (3) says he interprets the constitution; and
> A.3(4) says he decides on doubted procedure. Is the HOWTO the
> Secretary's interpretation/decision?

	Unfortunately, no. The HOWTO has not been updated to keep up
 with the recent changes in the constitution.

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