On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 07:09:07PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 14:58:40 -0500, Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org> said: > > So my hypothesis is that our method of ballot construction may serve > > to reward insincere voting, *even assuming the actual method of > > tabulating the votes does not*. > > If we have reached a pass where the people are delibrately > trying to prevent an reasonable agreement being reached; then perhaps > the status quo is what the people want, or deserve. I disagree. I think it just means there are antisocial people doing antisocial things. > >> If you don't, you need some mechanism to choose among incompatible > >> amendments, and if a majority of voters prefers to stay very close > >> to the status quo, the more "revolutionary" options will always be > >> defeated. > > Then this is what the people want to do; any artificial > process that prevents people from doing what they really want is also > doomed to failure. This is the same old question-begging premise. You assume a priori that our voting system is such that it accurately reflects "what the people want to do". I say, not necessarily. To imply otherwise means we were wasting our time with such long discussions over the merits of Cloneprooof/Schwartz Sequential Dropping. > I think that stifling solutions is way worse option. People > should be able to propose whatever solutions they think are best for > the situation at hand. Hence the reason I'm concerned about *irrelevant* options being added to the ballot. An irrelevant option is one that has nothing to do with the "situation at hand". > Treat people like miscreants, and they shall behave as such. > > I think that this level of mistrust of ones fellow developer > speaks ill of us all. These are nice slogans. I suppose your PGP passphrase is not stored encrypted, and that the computer programs you write don't bother to validate user input, either. -- G. Branden Robinson | I must despise the world which does Debian GNU/Linux | not know that music is a higher branden@debian.org | revelation than all wisdom and http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | philosophy. -- Ludwig van Beethoven
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