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Re: supermajority options

>>"Branden" == Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org> writes:

 Branden> On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:06:01PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 >> I think this is not really a matter of screwing up, this is a
 >> matter of, in some cases, avoiding the tyranny of the majority;

 Branden> ...a platitude directly rebutted by the paper to which John
 Branden> Robinson linked.

	Except I have not found the paper to be convincing; I think
 that the underlying assumptions are about mechanisms that are far
 different from ours, and that this difference is enough to invalidate
 the conclusion reached.

	I suggest people read the paper and reach their own conclusions.

 >> My contention is that there are a number of documents that
 >> define what the project is; and that we agreed to follow when we
 >> signed on to the project, and any changes to these documents, which
 >> cut to the heart of not just the developers, but the whole free
 >> software community (the DFSG is known as the gating criteria for free
 >> software far beyond the extents of the project), ought to be signed
 >> on by _most_ of the developers.

 Branden> Yes.  Anything more than half is "most", by definition.

     1. Consisting of the greatest number or quantity; greater in
        number or quantity than all the rest; nearly all. 

	I meant the nearly all nuance.

 >> So, supermajorities are, in my opinion, still needed for cases
 >> where we want a (very) rough consensus, where mere majority ought not
 >> be the sole criteria for adopting a measure.

 Branden>   consensus
 Branden>        n : agreement of the majority in sentiment or belief [syn: {general agreement> 

	Word games, I see. The common usage, when it comes to making
 decisions in debian, has been a term closer to unanimity. 

 Branden> Hear, hear.  I agree that we should have a rough consensus
 Branden> before changing such documents.

	I would have defined rough consensus to be about 90% of the
 people agreeing.

 Branden> We just don't need a supermajority to have it.

	I beg to differ.

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