Re: Withdrawal of the General Resolution about IRC
Previously Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Because the most concerned people (Wichert as #debian-devel's channel
> founder and Branden as an operator) didn't want to participate in the
> discussion, not even respond to simple questions that would have let us
> continue the work.
Fact is that the last 2 weeks I've been busy with getting started at
a new job and have only being doing the really necessary things outside
of that.
* OpenProjects is not a Debian resource, and I do not think Debian can
claim to own a part of it
* #debian-devel was created because #debian became too busy with non
development related discussions, not because people wanted to a place
for private discussions.
* #debian-devel has always been a channel for Debian development. It
never was a channel restricted to just Debian developers
* having non-developers on #debian-devel has been a positive influence:
+ apsiring developers and others participate in good technical
discussions
+ it is a very useful place to discuss topics that are broader then
just debian. For example security problems, LSB topics, etc.
* closing #debian-devel to just developers will not have a positive
effect:
+ a number developers of will leave the channel
+ it will create an image that Debian is a closed organisation,
something which we are already suffering from to some degree
unfortunately
+ keeping a channel closed is a lot of work that will just consume
valuable time
+ there has already been a #debian-private channel for a while so I
do not see the need to make #debian-devel a copy of that
I think we just need a simple etiquette for #debian-devel:
* it is a channel for Debian developers, general users questions should
be on #debian
* keep in mind irc discussions are much like discussions on any public
place, so don't talk about things you don't want others to know
* #debian-devel is not a helpdesk. We don't mind helping with
development issues, but do realize nobody is obliged to answer any
questions.
* try not to be offensive to people. A bad image is quickly created, but
very hard to get rid off.
* non-Debian developers we welcome as well, as long as they realize the
topic is Debian development
Wichert.
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