Re: well?

[Buddha Buck <bmbuck@14850.com>]

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> Are we all now clear on why ballots must be understandable, and why
> transparency of process is important?

As an observer, and not a developer (note to self:  you've been hanging 
out on the debian developers lists for 4+ years now, get off your ass 
and become a developer already!), I think there were a number of 
problems, only one of which was unclear ballots (unless, of course, 
you are talking about Palm Beach, Florida).

1st, we had a proposal die not because of a lack of interest, but 
because of what amounts to a clerical issue.  After the debate/flame 
war had continued for the requisite time, the proposer(s) called for a 
vote.  The debate continued until everyone was burned out and 
thoroughly knew the issue and their opinion on it.  Then people waited 
for 2 months for a vote to happen -- only to have it invalidated 
because people waited for 2 months instead of arguing for that time.

Darren obviously wasn't in a position to conduct the vote then, but 
that should be better now.  In addition, Raul is going to get trained 
in how to conduct the vote, so the official fall-back person can be 
fallen back upon if needed.  Hopefully, this will fix this problem in 
the future.

2nd, we had a strange situation where (in the view of several people, 
especially the secretary) a proposal and its amendment required 
different majorities to win.

Darren probably made the right call to have two separate ballots, but 
it's still an edge-case in our voting procedure.

3rd, we had the "can the Debian Social Contract be modified, and if so, 
how?" issue.  Luckily, things are in the works to resolve that.

4th, we had the unclear ballots when they finally got here.

Hopefully, we can learn from this whole list of problems...

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