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Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

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I formally second this proposal.

Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org> writes:

> * This proposal was originally made to debian-project on 19 July, but
>   according to <http://www.debian.org/vote/howto_proposal>, the current
>   Project Secretary refuses to recognizes Proposed General Resolutions sent
>   to any list other than debian-project.
> * I have been told, secondhand, that the Project Secretary also does not
>   accept seconds in forwarded form to the debian-vote list, even if the
>   original message along with digital signature is intact and verifiable as
>   having come from the person in question.  If the sitting Project
>   Secretary has found a way to forge digital signatures by forwarding them,
>   I am certain the cryptographic community would like to hear about it.  In
>   the meantime, I apologize to the original seconders for carbon-copying
>   them and ask them to second again (if they wish) -- this time directly to
>   the debian-vote mailing list -- and, if they have not already done so, to
>   subscribe to debian-vote.
> * This is a proposed amendment to the Project Constitution, and under the
>   terms of 4.1.2 (quoted below) will require a 3:1 supermajority to pass.
>   This is just FYI.
> * Much of the language of this proposal was authored by Manoj Srivastava
>   in a similar message to debian-project in July.  This proposal, however,
>   should not be regarded as substantially similar to his proposal (he did
>   not indicate to me that he accepted my message as an amendment to his
>   proposal).  Therefore, this proposal must stand on its own.  In other
>   words, this proposal should not be construed as an expression of Manoj's
>   position or opinions.
> ======================================================================
>  4. The Developers by way of General Resolution or election
>    4.1. Powers
>     Together, the Developers may:
>      1. Appoint or recall the Project Leader.
>      2. Amend this constitution, provided they agree with a 3:1 majority.
>      3. Override any decision by the Project Leader or a Delegate.
>      4. Override any decision by the Technical Committee, provided they
>         agree with a 2:1 majority.
> -    5. Issue nontechnical policy documents and statements.
> +    5. Issue, modify, and withdraw nontechnical policy documents and
> +       statements.
>         These include documents describing the goals of the project, its
>         relationship with other free software entities, and nontechnical
>         policies such as the free software licence terms that Debian
>         software must meet.
>         They may also include position statements about issues of the day.
>      6. Together with the Project Leader and SPI, make decisions about
>         property held in trust for purposes related to Debian. (See
>         s.9.1.)
> ======================================================================
>  Rationale: The clause being modified has been seen recently to be quite
>  ambiguous. Since the original wording appeared to be amenable to two
>  wildly different interpretations, this change adds clarifying language to
>  the constitution about _changing_ or withdrawing nontechnical documents.
>  Furthermore, this amended proposal does not include any orthogonal issues
>  such as whether there exist any specific nontechnical documents that
>  should require unusual amendment procedures.  I think such issues should
>  be decided on separately, since it is quite possible that reasonable
>  developers can feel that the above is a reasonable clarification of the
>  Constitution with such belief necessitating a particular position on the
>  issues of special nontechnical documents, their identity, or their
>  amendability.
> ======================================================================
> -- 
> G. Branden Robinson             |
> Debian GNU/Linux                |    If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws
> branden@debian.org              |    will @goH7OjBd7*dnfk=<q4fDj]Kz?.
> http://www.debian.org/~branden/ |
> ----- End forwarded message -----
> -- 
> G. Branden Robinson             |     To stay young requires unceasing
> Debian GNU/Linux                |     cultivation of the ability to unlearn
> branden@debian.org              |     old falsehoods.
> http://www.debian.org/~branden/ |     -- Robert Heinlein

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John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>                       www.complete.org
Sr. Software Developer, Progeny Linux Systems, Inc.    www.progenylinux.com
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