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* and this time I'll get Wichert's email address right
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On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 09:08:48PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> I'm seeing a variety of objections where people are assuming that
> the debian web pages will not tell people how to access the non-free
> distribution.
Because wichert's proposal is incomplete. It doesn't say exactly what's
going to be done about the web pages. What we have that DOES address it
(the proposal by RMS) says that we WILL remove all references to
non-free. Wichert has not yet spoken up about this and what we're
discussing here is clearly related to the proposal RMS made. I will
withdraw my objections in a heartbeat if I know that the implementation
details of this proposal Wichert chose not to write about won't result in
hiding non-free and making it difficult to get at.
> Rather than try to delve into the rhetoric, let me simply point out that
> nothing prevents us from presenting both options on our web pages.
> Likewise, we can have people distributing cdroms which just have main
> as well as people distributing cdroms with contrib.
All indications are that while we COULD do that, RMS has asked us not to,
and it looks like as a result, we won't. This is what I object to.
> While I'm addressing this subject, I'd like to point out that the main
> page has a link labeled "Download FTP" which doesn't address the more
> general issue of downloading from the net (for example: no list of
> aptable sources). I suspect that this lack is the real issue which
> people are trying to address.
Yah, it's time for the mirror list to include apt lines, and it should be
more prominent.
> If there really were a policy that this shouldn't be on the web site,
> then perhaps it would be reasonable to require that apt include some
> partial information in this direction... but a stable package can never
> be as up-to-date as the web page (and we can presume that people who
> would be using the net to install Debian have net access). So if we do
> have such a policy (I'm not aware of one), I think it's wrong.
We don't currently. I'm trying to prevent one being put into place.
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