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Re: where does time go



On Fri, 2025-10-31 at 21:02 +0000, fxkl47BF@protonmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2025, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 04:23:46PM +0000, fxkl47BF@protonmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2025, Nicolas George wrote:

fxkl47BF@protonmail.com (HE12025-10-31):
i run a command preceded by time and pipe it to mail
the results of time is not included in the mail

time sleep 2 2>&1 | mail -s foo bar@localhost

Try this:

time sleep 3 | sleep 10

… observe carefully the output and deduce something important about
time.


that's easy
the electrons are moving near the speed of light
so time slows down :)

The electrons move actually pretty slowly. It's the electrical field
what moves quickly.

Let's assume copper, at a density of 8.9 g/cm^3, and an atomic weight
of 63.5: 1mm^3 of copper has 6.02*10^23 * 8.9 * 10^-3 * (1/63.5) atoms,
i.e. 8.44 * 10^19 atoms, each contributing one electron to the conduction
band (the last lone S1). At 1.6 * 10^-19 C, that makes 13.5C of charge
available for conduction in each mm^3, which is a friggin' lot.

If you push 1A across a wire with a cross section of 1mm^2, your
electrons would be moving at 1/13.5 mm/s, i.e. 0.074 mm/s: I can
hear the snails in my garden yawning :)

I might have lost an order of magnitude here or there, but the kind
of result is somewhat consistent with the dim memories I have from a
former life...

i worked maintenance in a factory so i can't argue with any of that
but please clarify
is this 0.074 mm/s along the length of the conductor
what about moving in other directions
how far does an electron actually travel in one second

An ampere is defined as one Coulomb of charge transfer per second. The Coulomb is related to Avogadro's number by the Faraday constant. One Coulomb is roiughly 6.242e18 elementary charges.



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