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Re: Frequent freezing around login screens



In the end, I eliminated the freezing by replacing LightDM with GDM3.

I still have no idea what the problem was with LightDM. I tested the RAM and put in a different HDD, but freezing was the same.

Apologies for the poor email threading. There seems to be no way to do it from a browser interface.
On Thursday, March 27th, 2025 at 12:34 AM, W. Pepperdine <wenpep@protonmail.com> wrote:
> Here are outputs of a few queries on log entries
> from one of my XFCE installations. How do they compare
> with your logs?  Can you see any reports on your
> computer that could point to what is causing your issue?

After a system freeze, I rebooted to the desktop as root and collected these reports. Others looked at them but didn't see a cause for the freeze.

/var/log/Xorg.0.log (http://paste.debian.net/1365570/)
/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old (http://paste.debian.net/1365571/)
/var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log (http://paste.debian.net/1365572/)
/var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log.old (http://paste.debian.net/1365573/)
dmesg (http://paste.debian.net/1365575/)
journalctl -b -p3 (http://paste.debian.net/1365578/)

Any suggestion for what else to check?

I have three theories for the problem.

1. It's hardware. The problem is that it's a new machine, checks with other software seem OK, and the freezing occurs only during login/out.

2. It's LightDM. Since the freezing only happens around login/out, that seems to point to the display manager, but would a frozen DM take out the USB ports?

3. It's the kernel configuration. At the moment, that seems most likely to me. I've been reading that the Lenovo machines can have some peculiar interactions with kernel modules, so I'm now checking into that.

On Tuesday, March 25th, 2025 at 6:51 PM, W. Pepperdine <wenpep@protonmail.com> wrote:
Debian+XFCE freezes randomly either just before, during, or a couple seconds after the login screen. It happens about a third the time, both on booting and on changing users. During a freeze, the screen displays but is not updated and the USB ports appear inactive. There is no mouse or keyboard input, not even from SysRq. The only thing to do is a hard shutdown with the power button.

I first installed Trixie and had this problem and others. Downgraded to Bookworm and have just this problem left. The machine is a ThinkCentre M920q with i5-9600T, 8GB RAM, and UHD Graphics 630.

Have already had some discussion of log output on Debian User Forums.

Computer freezing because of LightDM?
https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=162147



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