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Re: Why is Firefox crashing so much lately?

On Thu, 2024-07-18 at 07:55 +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 08:00:06PM -0700, Van Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 2024-07-17 at 22:17 -0400, eben@gmx.us wrote:
On 7/17/24 21:25, Gary Dale wrote:
I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system, using the Plasma 5
over X
desktop. Firefox 115.12.0esr is crashing multiple times per day. It
frequently happens when page I'm transfers to another page that
creates a  > PDF or just has a complicated link. It's annoying.

I upgraded from Debian 10 to Debian 12.5 "Bookworm." The NVidia 390
driver no longer works, so I had software rendering because nouveau
apparently can't do GPU rendering. Rather than crashing, the system
essentially froze. After waiting for a VERY long time, I would give up
and cycle power, with my reboot set up to start an empty session, not
the one I had going at time of the power cycle. I replaced the graphics
card with a Quadro K2200, which works with the nvidia-drivers package
that's still part of the Debian 12.5 distro. With GPU rendering, I no
longer have the problem.


HOW did you upgrade? Did you go via 11?

Did you purge all Nvidia drivers at that point? Nouveau works fairly well
if there's no other trace of Nvidia on the system. Freezing is definitely
a symptom of drivers fighting.

Fresh install on reformatted boot and root partitions.

I can't do that with my old Dell Vostro 1700 because the NVidia
graphics chip is soldered to the motherboard, and it needs the 340
driver, which is also no longer available.


If this is the Dell with dual chipsets - one Nvidia to do the heavy
graphics, an Intel chipset for basics - like a bunch of gaming laptops
you'd need to look at the Debian Nvidia pages for primus and so on.

One chipset.

If it *just* has Nvidia - at this point, use Nouveau - stop trying to
use Nvidia drivers on old hardware and that Dell is 2008 vintage?

I gave up trying to install the NVidia 340 driver on Debian 12.5. If the rendering is unbearably slow, I'll revert to Debian 10.

Software movces on - the very latest Nvidia drivers are "more free" but
also incorporate entire RISC-V chipsets on board the latest cards.

I can't upgrade a soldered-in chip.

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