On 6/9/24 08:52, Greg Wooledge wrote:
So I ran the above apt-cache show, writing it to /tmp/gnome-deps, then removed orca from that list and saved it over itself.On Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 02:14:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:orca is gone, as is gnome. Apt and synaptic refuse to re-install gnome w/o dragging in orca too. Good night, whats left of it, Tom.The "gnome" metapackage depends on "orca". It's a direct dependency. hobbit:~$ apt-cache show gnome | grep Depends: Depends: gnome-core (= 1:43+1), desktop-base, libproxy1-plugin-networkmanager, network-manager-gnome (>= 1.8), cheese (>= 3.38), file-roller (>= 3.38), gnome-calendar (>= 3.38), gnome-clocks (>= 3.38), gnome-color-manager (>= 3.36), gnome-maps (>= 3.38), gnome-music (>= 3.36), shotwell | gnome-photos (>= 3.36), gnome-weather (>= 3.36), orca (>= 3.38), rygel-playbin (>= 0.36), rygel-tracker (>= 0.36), simple-scan (>= 3.36), avahi-daemon, evolution (>= 3.36), gnome-sound-recorder, gnome-tweaks (>= 3.30), libgsf-bin, libreoffice-gnome, libreoffice-writer, libreoffice-calc, libreoffice-impress, rhythmbox (>= 3.0), seahorse (>= 3.36), xdg-user-dirs-gtk, cups-pk-helper (>= 0.2), evolution-plugins (>= 3.36), gstreamer1.0-libav (>= 1.10), gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly (>= 1.10), rhythmbox-plugins, rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder, totem-plugins
I am freshly rebooted, nothing is running but this tbird and ntpsec as this machine is a stratum 3 server to most of the other machines here. I have a few bash's running but no local network has been started so the system is relatively clean.
So I have a comma separated list of deps w/o orca, in /tmp/gnome-deps. whats next?
Not totally, but studying the equiv docs (the README) is leaving me puzzled. Your list above, leaving out orca looks like a good starting point but is a lot of typing. I just had a lockup & had a 30 second lag like launching shotwell gives before the reset button even cleared the screen to start the reboot.hobbit:~$ apt-cache show gnome | grep Depends: | grep -oP 'orca.*?,' orca (>= 3.38), I've spelled out for you step by step how to build your own replacement for "gnome" which lacks this dependency. You've ignored that.
That I finally figured out 9 months or so back up the log, so I didn't pursue it further.Others have suggested steps for disabling/reconfiguring orca without removing it. You haven't tried that path either.
You just keep repeating the same steps over and over and expecting a different result. .
Thanks Greg. Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis