Re: logging no longer standard?

[err404@free.fr]

On 8/5/23 14:56, Carl Fink wrote:
> On 8/5/23 02:54, Michel Verdier wrote:
> > On 2023-08-04, Carl Fink wrote:
> >
> > > Today, on my Bullseye system, X crashed and restarted. Naturally, I thought
> > > I'd check my logs to see if I could find out why.
> > >
> > > Well, no ... because syslog does not exist.
> > If you don't have syslog your logs will be on journald.
> > But X logs could be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or
> > ~/.xsession-error or ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log
> It is highly probable that I'm being grumpy because Debian changed something that
> I was used to for decades, without my realizing it. I'm more interested in *using* my
> computer than learning whole new paradigms about, say, logging. Changing things
> will *always* be perceived as friction unless someone explains clearly why it makes
> sense, to me personally.
>
> -Carl Fink

I have syslog, and journald.
about having syslog, it is probably because I install rsyslog on all my computers (to send logs on server through vpn).
about having journald, I dont apreciate it, because it change many things that already working for years.
the ONLY avantage (in my opinion) to journald is to start loging very earlier at boot.

may be installing rsyslog is a solution for you (even if you don't need to send logs on a remote server)