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Re: Debian failed



On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 04:51:10 +0100 hw <hw@adminart.net> wrote:

> And it works like 97% perfectly fine ...

That's an oxymoron. 

> 
> > Radeon RX 6000 series was released last year. I doubt it was possible to 
> > use one of these with Red Hat Enterprise Linux ootb in the beginning of 
> > this year before RHEL 9 was released. ;-)  
> 
> I don't know, I had NVIDIA cards before and there was never a problem
> with Debian or Fedora or Gentoo being too old for that.

Actually with NVidia it's more typical to have a kernel too new or the card to be too old. Or other sources for incompatibility, which emerge from time to time.

If you have less problems with NVidia, maybe you should simply stick to NVidia then. 

> Last year was at
> least a year ago and Debian still can't use the card?  Seriously? 

With Debian bookworm or sid your card should work. Both are no less Debian than bullseye. 

Beyond that, like others already pointed out: Hardware which needs (to get fully supported) a kernel version newer than 5.10 won't run perfectly fine with Debian "bullseye" 11 by default. But that's also true for all NVidia cards. For both of them you need additional sources: For newer AMD cards it's "backports" and for NVidia it's "non-free". 

If you have less problems with Fedora, maybe you should simply use Fedora instead. 

> It's
> not even some kind of special card (except being way too large) but the
> minimum card you can get away with when you have a 4k display (and has
> only about half the performance or even less of the 1080ti FE I
> surprisingly resurrected.)

I'd expect the RX 6600 XT to be a little below a GTX 1080 ti, with much less power usage. But not half the performance. There's probably something wrong with your configuration or you're using a workload which favours NVidia. Both is possible.

> On top of that, the AMD drivers are open source and in the standard
> kernel and are supposed to work.  It doesn't make any sense. 

Indeed it makes sense if the kernel you use is older than the minimum required. Update your kernel and it should work. 

> Who is
> cooperative with their drivers now, NVIDIA or AMD?

AMD (regarding Linux kernel or distribution inclusion)

> 
> Wayland still doesn't work with NVIDIA, but I can live without it for
> now ...

It works fine with AMD and Intel.

hede


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