Re: support for ancient peripherals
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 7:21 PM, I wrote:
>> My concern is about support for three ancient peripherals that I like better
>> than the modern equivalents:
>> ...
>> 2. A Logitech M-MD15L three-button roller-ball serial mouse (from 2006); and
>> 3. An HP LaserJet 5MP printer from 1995 with a parallel-port connector.
On Monday, November 7, 2022 5:17 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater <amacater@einval.com>
replied:
> you can still get a Lenovo desktop with optional serial port and parallel
> port as far as I can see.
Thanks. I'll look into that.
And on Monday, November 7, 2022 6:08 PM, David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> wrote:
> If any mouse can be opened and resealed, then it is quite possible that the
> scroll sensor can be disabled by some simple method that would require little
> time and effort.
> ...
> Anyone inclined to tinker with hardware, even with only curiosity and no
> expertise, has a good chance of achieving this, if you can find such a
> person.
Good idea. I can do this sort of thing if, as you say, I can get inside. I
clean TV remotes inside easily but can hardly get them open without breaking
the cases.
On Monday, November 7, 2022 7:37 PM, Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:
> Elecom M-CAD01UBBK is a $15-20 USB mouse with three buttons, no scroll wheel.
Thanks for the good news.
I may be slow to get this done, but whenever I do I'll report back. Thanks
again to everyone for your help.
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From: Peter von Kaehne <refdoc@gmx.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2022 12:46 AM
To: David
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: support for ancient peripherals
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You can also buy not too expensively PCIe cards for serial and parallel port.
The printer I connected through a parallel to usb adapter cable
Peter
Sent from my phone. Please forgive misspellings and weird “corrections”
> On 7 Nov 2022, at 23:09, David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 at 05:01, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj)
> <kleenesj@ucmail.uc.edu> wrote:
>
>> For me a scroll wheel has always been a deal-breaker, and I recently
>> couldn't find any mice without that. (A few years ago I found just one,
>> from HP, and I didn't like using it.) I click with the center button
>> a lot, and (maybe at my skill level) a scroll button often causes jitter
>> in the display. I wonder if it's possible to turn off the scrolling
>> function of the scroll wheel while still allowing clicks to be detected.
>
> Hi,
>
> Regarding the above, and to relieve the previously-mentioned dependence on
> the ancient mouse from 2006, I offer the following thoughts that might
> expand the set of potential solutions ...
>
> If any mouse can be opened and resealed, then it is quite possible that the
> scroll sensor can be disabled by some simple method that would require
> little time and effort.
>
> Depending on how it is constructed, disabling either its mechanical,
> optical, or electrical operation either temporarily or permanently are all
> possibilities.
>
> Mechanical:
> - prevent rotation.
> - render rotation ineffective.
> (eg wedge it, or decouple it)
> Optical:
> - physically block the optical path.
> Electrical:
> - disable either input or output of sensor
> (eg wire cutters or desolder or cut pcb tracks)
>
> There appears to be numerous videos posted to youtube that explain how
> various mice scroll sensors work.
>
> Anyone inclined to tinker with hardware, even with only curiosity and no
> expertise, has a good chance of achieving this, if you can find such
> a person.
>
> If attempted on one or several low-value simple mice, this could be
> a non-scary learning exercise for yourself or anyone else you know who
> wants to try it.
>
> For anyone with electronics knowledge, this will be a simple request, and
> the hardest part will be opening the mouse. So another approach would be to
> find a mouse that you can open, and open it up yourself, and then take it
> anywhere that does electronics hardware work, and explain what you want and
> that you have opened it to make it easy for them to inspect, and ask if they
> would take a quick look and consider doing this job for a fee that is
> acceptable.
>
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