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Re: just saying



On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 04:35:25PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 10:48:42AM +0100, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 09:21:51AM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
> > > Nevertheless, not all of the licenses we might discuss in the context of
> > > this thread are considered Free by the FSF, so there is a need for other
> > > terminology.
> > 
> > Example?
> 
> There are plenty of licenses that allow viewing and reuse of the source,
> which some people might think of as being "open source", but contain
> other stipulations that FSF deem incompatible with their concept of Free
> Software.
> 
> Here's FSF's list:
> 
>     https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#NonFreeSoftwareLicenses

I know about this list. It kind of makes sense: each of those
licenses have restrictions on how one's supposed to distribute
the software (or a changed version thereof).

> I don't think there is (or could be) any that are OSDL-approved that
> could be considered by FSF as non-Free. But OSI's definition of what
> "open source" means isn't the same as everyone else's understanding of
> that word.
> 
> > Moreover, since this is a Debian list: is there anything DFSG
> > which isn't free according to the FSF definition?
> 
> I don't think that could happen,

That was my take, too.

>                       but going the other way, there's
> GFDL-licensed documentation with invariant sections that say they must
> not be altered, which then makes them not-DFSG-free, so Debian strips
> them out of packages.

I knew that. That's unfortunate, but difficult to avoid.

Cheers
-- 
t

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