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On 6/13/22 14:36, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 01:56:12PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: >> I appear as user 1000 seem to be stuck behind some sort of a >> permissions wall. > > SHOW. US. I got tired of fighting with it Greg, so I did install #32 and
installed gnome_desktop (that was new) and xfce4 during the install, and now things including the screen colors are back to normal, I've installed the brother printers and scanner drivers and I can modify t them by the usual rules. I also set a root pw in addition to
adding myself to /etc/group in the appropriate places. I created an /sshnet
tree with the other 5 machines here, did a root chown -R me:me on that path and
just now mounted all of them as me, so I own the path to me on the other 5 machines.
And my working environment is getting close to completed,
something that only been workable occasionally since that last Seagate 2T
drive went tits down in the night last Dec 8th. Kmail5 is buggier than road kill in June, but t-bird is more like
August, so I'm looking for a mailer that actually works. tbirds sort filters
don't, and they think everybody uses only html, so word wrap doesn't work So I'm doing this by hand..
So my only instant question is when will the developers
understand that stuff that runs as a $USER, needs one of two changes, either a
.conf file someplace readable by the $USER that tells things like t-bird, running as the user, can have write privs to /var/log, /or/ an entry in that
*.conf so logging can be done instead of just gobbling up the denial w/o
bothering to tell the user it can't open the log. Its trivial to fix
logrotate to service the logs in /home/$USER/logs where there's no perms problem because the $USER owns the whole path. Same perms story for heyu and nut, but some somebody, thinking security as opposed to usability, insists on building /dev/ttyUSB*, with 0600 perms. Neither nut, nor heyu
can get past that to get their job done. And IF I reset those two devices to 0777, re reboot fixes that.
I must have asked 15 or 20 times in the last decade, how to fix this in permanently in /lib/udev, and have been ignored when I ask that
for several years. Usability, letting a computer actually DO its job simply isn't on the menu. With a record like that, can you blame me for being frustrated? Frustrated by asking for advice so I do do it right,
and being ignored. [...] I just did, but haven't changed the perms of /dev/ttyUSB* yet.
Only so much time in one 24 hour day. Up since 4:40 my time, by 20:00
I'm burned out for the day. Take care and stay well, Greg. Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis |