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Re: email lacks sender address



On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 08:05:46AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> If I understand correctly, which is always in serious doubt, it is 
> exim that constructs the Sender: line by combining /etc/mailname and 
> $LOCALHOST. Is this so?
> 
> These values are present:
> 
>   $ nano /etec/mailname
>   lenin.histomat.net

Obvious typo.  This means you are not pasting results directly from a
terminal into an email.  Instead, you're re-typing them, and making
tons of errors in the process.  That makes it super hard to know what
is actually real.

>   $ echo $LOGNAME
>   haines

You mentioned $LOCALHOST before, and now suddenly it's $LOGNAME.

> However I'm not clear whether the field is empthy or that what us 
> in it field is not owned by me. I have popcorn installed, and it has 

popcon, not popcorn.

> root send a priodidic message. The mail server does not recognize 
> the root@histomats.net address. It sends me this message:

*Which* mail server?  Who is "it"?

>   A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
>   recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
> 
>     survey@popcon.devuan.org
>     host mail.guardedhost.com [216.239.133.245]
>     SMTP error from remote mail server after pipelined sending data block:
>     553 5.7.1 <root@histomat.net>: Sender address rejected:
>     not owned by user brownh@historicalmaterialism.info
> 
>     Reporting-MTA: dns; lenin.histomat.net

So, this message was generated by your own MTA running on your own
computer, after the message was rejected by the receiving MTA.

There are many things I do not understand in this error message.  For
starters, who or what is "host mail.guardedhost.com [216.239.133.245]"
and what do they have to do with anything?

unicorn:~$ host -t mx popcon.devuan.org
popcon.devuan.org mail is handled by 10 mx.devuan.org.
unicorn:~$ host mx.devuan.org
mx.devuan.org has address 141.95.83.167

There's no mention of mail.guardedhost.com or 216.239.133.245 in DNS
at all.

It sounds like something on *your* end.  Maybe you've configured your
MTA to use a smarthost, and mail.guardedhost.com is your smarthost?
And if so, it's refusing to relay mail from you as long as you claim
to be root@histomat.net instead of brownh@historicalmaterialism.info
or something.

Also, you appear not to be using Debian, so... all bets are off.


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