Re: Firefox ESR EOL
On Monday, December 20, 2021 5:00:07 AM EST Jeremy Ardley wrote:
> On 20/12/21 5:52 pm, Curt wrote:
> > On 2021-12-18, Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> wrote:
> >> Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> writes:
> >>> Maybe I missed something. Why RISC V?
> >>
> >> Just having an alternative is attractive to some. Having an open
> >> alternative even more so.
> >>
> >> I'd happily run ARM or RISC-V, if those were an alternative for a decent
> >> desktop or laptop computer. Raspberry Pi is scratching and clawing its
> >> way there little by little. As the Pi 4 has exposed a PCIe connection,
> >> it has a viable storage now for a small system. But still slow and weird
> >> form factor. Maybe in Pi 6 or maybe 10? Who knows.
> >
> > The 3.14159265359 is still popular.
> >
> >> RISC-V is better in the form factor part as there's a standard Mini-ITX
> >> board but the price and performance aren't there yet. Not to mention
> >> software support. I'd want an official Debian release first.
>
> There are a few ARM SBC that are very powerful - better than Pi 4. They
> have NVME/PCiE disk interfaces and several USB 3.0 interfaces.
>
> The NanoPi M4V2 is one such, but there are several competitors mostly
> using RockChip chipsets.
>
> They run Armbian and usually have integrated gigabit LAN (2.5 Gigabit
> with the right drivers) and dual band wifi and bluetooth.
Armbian on a rock64, an older version of the rockchip. is in fact much faster
than a pi4. If the interfaceing for linuxcnc was there it would be more than
capable of freezing out the pi. Unforch there is zero interest on the part of
armbian for realtime kernels, so you're on your own building one. That could
be done, I've done it for the pi3-4's. But this section of the market seems to
think their future is in multimedia, and has zero interest in machine control.
For going outside the Foundations fence, I am blacklisted on the raspian pi
forum.
As a home cnc machine builder, that attitude is killing the market these
devices could own if they wanted to. So I have one machine run by a pi,
drawing perhaps 25 watts with the lcd monitor. The other 4 are running on old
Dells, drawing 250 watts with monitors. Its the build cost that restricts the
pi's, over $200 to interface to a machine, The Dells are famously lacking in
real i/o, but a usable machine can be built for $65 in interfacing.
The first arm board builder to give us two pcie slots or two net ports. or
even 2 parports WILL OWN this market if the MSRP is under $100 with 2 gigs of
ram. Ideal would be one pci-e, and one net port. SSD's can be put on the pi4's
on either or both, usb-3 ports.
> As a workstation they are more than adequate. As a home server they are
> more than adequate.
Absolutely.
Take care and stay well all.
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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