Re: Firefox ESR EOL
On 12/18/21 13:34, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> Am Freitag, 10. Dezember 2021, 13:25:17 CET schrieb Roberto C. Sánchez:
>> [...]
>> All the hate in this thread is really very tiresome. I'm not directing
>> this specifically to you, Christian, rather speaking of the general tone
>> of this thread. Discussing alternatives for users who are concerned
>> about still being on FF 78 ESR and who would like options for running
>> the latest ESR is fine. But bashing on the people who have been working
>> literally for months on sorting out all of the issues (and there are
>> many) to bring the latest FF ESR into Debian stable/oldstable is not
>> productive. Nor is it productive to point at Debian and other distros
>> and say things like "they do it, how come Debian can't?" Each distro
>> has slightly different objectives, operating frameworks, etc. Debian's
>> goals are different from Ubuntu's goals, are different from Fedora's
>> goals, are different from Mozilla upstream's goals. Let's just accept
>> that (or work constructively to adjust the goals to better suit you) and
>> support the people doing the work.
>
> Hi Roberto,
>
> thanks and I agree with all you wrote. But also be aware that not all critics
> is bashing and not everybody has the skills and/or time to actively help to
> backport the necessary packages. I do not intend to bash anybody, I understand
> that Debian is based on volunteer work (which is tremendous), and I hope that
> you consider the feedback as constructive.
>
> What I am missing is transparency, but it might be my fault that I just do not
> find the right information. What would help me feeling more comfortable with
> the situation is
>
> 1) a statement which is informing the users through a Debian channel about the
> thread before that appears on Linux Blogs/news channels. Even now I have not
> seen any comment on this topic. I am subscribed to the what I think are the
> relevant Debian channels for Debian users (and some more).
>
> 2) an estimate for the ETA. That would it make easier for me to decide if I
> can just wait for the update or if I need to work on another solution myself.
>
I also think that if Debian project cannot handle with particular
security issue on time then Debian users should be informed.
Kind regards
Georgi
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