Re: upgrading and stuff
On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 12:48:37PM -0400, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
Hi Roy,
> On Saturday 25 September 2021 06:08:23 pm Andy Smith wrote:
> > The release of the three newer stable versions of Debian seems to have happened without you noticing.
>
> Life has handed me a whole mess of things to deal with over the past year or two...
>
Sorry to hear that: I hope it gets better
> > If you remain subscribed to this mailing list then you will surely read here about the release of
> > Debian 12 (bookworm), but if you want a very low traffic announcements feed then you could subscribe to the debian-announce
> > list instead:
> >
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/
> >
> > It's only received 6 emails so far this year:
> >
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2021/threads.html
>
> I *do* have that list flowing in here, along with Debian News and Debian Security. I guess I need to give it some more attention?
>
> > > consulted the release notes about how one might go about upgrading, and from the latest on back each one says something to
> > > the effect of only being able to upgrade from the last major version, so if there's a good way to do this whole thing at once
> > > I'd sure like to hear about it.
> >
> > Yes, upgrades are only supported from one release to another, so if you wish to upgrade this machine you're going to have to consult the
> > release notes for Debian 9 about upgrading from 8.x to 9.x, and then the release notes for Debian 10, and so on until you are at Debian
> > 11.x.
>
> I have multiple tabs open in my browser to just those things.
>
> > It's not supported to go directly from 8 to 11 (or even from 8 to 10) and trying to do so will probably end in failure.
> >
> > Or you could just reinstall and then put your data files back in
> > place from your backups. That may be quicker.
>
> Maybe, but I'm not sure that I want to go there at the moment.
>From 8 to 9 should be do-able. So Jessie -> Stretch.
Stretch is still (just about) in support at the moment so follow through
the release notes carefully. I'd strongly suggest making notes of
all the major services you run and any configs you know you've changed.
Work through that one, then do the same for 9 -> 10 - Stretch -> Buster.
At that point, there are several changes that have happened. There will be
another point release for Buster shortly, if all goes well.
LILO is no longer supported in Bullseye, if I remember rightly, so that might
be a problem for moving further until Buster is sorted (at which point you
should be able to move forward if you wish).
If we can help on this list, don't hesitate, just ask. Similar questions
have been asked over the last couple of months so you might also want to
just take a quick look tthrough the archives from July onwards - Debian
11 was released on 14th July 2021.
All the very best, as ever,
Andy Cater
>
> > > The only thing that works there is to log in as a regular user, and then use the su command to get there. A bit of a pain. Where
> > > in the software is this controlled? I really would like to change this behavior, if at all possible.
> >
> > I am not aware of any modern desktop environment that allows to log in and run the entire GUI as root, for reasons you said you didn't
> > want to hear about. Someone else may be able to suggest some alternate desktop environment that allows this.
>
> Well, I guess we'll see what turns up in the messages then.
>
>
> --
> Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
> ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can
> be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
> -
> Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James
> M Dakin
>
Reply to: