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Re: MDs & Dentists



Hi,

On 2021-07-14 2:27 p.m., Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Doctors and Dentists run windows as the base for all of their practice
> software.  I don't know of any linux software that could replace that
> software either.  Could it be some software house would be able to get
> linux versions available and make some money?
> 
> 
There's many reason behind the use of Windows.
The historical reason.
Plus you often need many software that are specific to one part of your
practice. For example in Quebec, all doctors need to have a accounting
software that is certified by the accounting board so they can bill the
universal health care system. They also need a certified software to
have access to the unified medical record (all hospital are linked to a
huge database so anywhere you can know what test have been done, what
medication is prescribed, etc) Those software are have a limited market
either because of the geography (accounting and medical limited only to
Quebec) or in some case because of the practice type (There's software
made only for radiologists and some only for ENT doctors).

All this create a somewhat small market and it would be hard for a
company to be profitable in a sub part of this market.

Also, there's the more complex certification of the global system.
There's ANSI and ISO standard for medical equipment that has to be met
by computer equipment used in medical practice. Not everything but when
you talk about lab results analysis for example.
This would require to certify the whole stack, including the underlying
Linux OS and deal with the update. Often these system are not network
linked because you can't update them too easily.

Also, there's the part that "Everyone learn something in school" and for
most of us, this is Windows. So you'd be asking your clerk to learn the
difference with LibreOffice and adapt to this.

Some things are changing, as we are all now "over Internet", I know that
some provider who only offered Windows based software are now serving it
as web application. So you can use it over Internet, that is mainly
billing and health record management.

We also have to put ourselves into others shoes. If most people here who
are Debian user also adapt easily to different computer environment,
even enjoy it. It's far from the case with most other user of computer
system. So there must be at least a really good incentive to force a
system change.

And there, I cannot see it !

The savings done over license would be transferred to the cost of
certifying. Where as now, once the Windows operating system is approved,
you don't have to do this again for every solution you'll make.

Where there's a good penetration of Linux based system is mostly where
the doctors are autonomous in their own practice. For example in Africa,
if I'm remembering good, even UNAIDS (UN HIV) donated funds for a open
source software used to manage lab results and do epidemiology with the
data. This was in Africa...

The question is not "why doesn't anyone made a solution using Linux" but
the question is more "what would they gain doing so" and "what would be
the incentive to the user".

If it take more than 2 sentence to explain the advantages of going with
a Linux solution then you lost them. And this not only apply to doctors
but to most professional for who the computer is only a tool, like a
pen, a typewriter and a ottoscope.

I'll explain a bit more to support my words...

Many years ago, the health administration of Quebec was getting tired of
dealing with paper billing getting in.
It was time consuming for the agency to put all this into the computer
themselves.
But by law, they couldn't force doctor to bill thru computer. You have
doctor who are 70 years old and are used to billing by hand on a
tri-copy piece of paper with carbon. They know all the billing code in
their head.
We are in 2005 and there's people sending in load of paper, there's
other doctor who send in disc (cd-rom that evolved from the old time
floppy), some of them use a switched line modem (56k) and some use batch
transfer over the internet thru the portal.

So they put a transaction fee of 75 cents for every paper form sent,
except the one that are only possible to send on paper (some type of
payment where you have to justify what you did or when there's no
billing code).

And time goes by...
It took 5 years for the doctors who sent by paper to mostly change to
electronic form.
So we are now in 2011 and there's still doctor doing the paper thing.
So they pushed in the unified health record and paid a one-time fee to
all doctor for buying computer and network equipment, also internet
access plus 6 days in the year for training. And they added some payment
to train the employees.

Because there was a real advantage for doctors (the unified health
record), they computerized their practice. Once they started being more
electronic, some advantage of using the computerized system was added.
For example you could save yourself from typing many information in
forms by reusing it from the health record.
As time passed, the doctors who still billed on paper we're going
electronic. The only thing that pushed them was because it was a more
useful for them, easier, it reduced the possibility of error.

And now as of 2021, there's only electronic billing and all doctor have
access to the unified health record.

There's a need to have a good reason for a change...

Practice of medicine is a very particular job. You don't always have
much time to make some very important decision. And if you end up
loosing time because you don't understand or need to adapt to a new
computer system then you'll simply keep it the way it is now.

Little story on the end.
My dad called me and asked if I could go setup his home network when he
moved to his new house.
I went, we drink beer and have a good meal.
One of his friend say "Hey, ain't you able to setup your internet yourself".
And my dad to answer "Sure I can do it, even setup the firewall, the ip
routing if needed and all it's needed. It ain't hard to make the
necessary research if there's something you are not sure. But why don,t
I do it ? Because it won't be effective for me and I'm 65 years old".

Hope this give a inside look and answer some questions
-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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