Hi, Mark Rousell wrote: > TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-224DB SB01: Does NOT pull in. This kills the emerging urban legend of The Curse Of The 24. The firmware version is available since 2013. Michael Lange wrote: > product: DVDR PX-810SA Announced in 2007. > product: CDDVDW SH-224DB > Both keep their trays open for at least 12 min. Now i am unsure whether to count SH-224DB twice. Have a nice day :) Thomas