Re: odd passwd problem.
On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:03:18 David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 22:41:00 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 01 August 2019 16:58:46 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Thursday 01 August 2019 10:20:57 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > > On Jo, 01 aug 19, 06:28:17, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > Debian-arm netinstall on a pi3b;
> > > > >
> > > > > No root pw set, I am housebroken to using sudo now.
> > > > >
> > > > > netinstall didn't install x anything although I thought I was
> > > > > selecting xfce4, so my first action on the reboot was to
> > > > > "sudo apt install xfce4". reboot, works, have x and 4
> > > > > workspaces.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then "sudo apt install build-essential and buildbot, cups".
> > > > > reboot, worked once, login normal. Then I plugged in a 120GB
> > > > > ssd which had a bunch of src stuff on it I'll need later and
> > > > > powered up again. Can't login, passwd no good. Dbl check,
> > > > > caps lock off, try again several times, passwd no good.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe the SSD is drawing just enough additional current to mess
> > > > with your keyboard. As already suggested, you could try removing
> > > > it.
> > >
> > > Its a 5 amp switcher.
> > >
> > > > Also, since you're not worried about security you could try
> > > > typing your password in the username field, to make sure the
> > > > keyboard works as expected. Just don't press enter so the
> > > > password is not logged ;)
> > >
> > > I've done that too, its displaying exactly what I typed.
> >
> > And I am being ignored. So here is a thought.
>
> Well, I didn't realise you were using a DM to login when I wrote my
> first reply. As with the SSD, I would have you revert from a DM to
> an ordinary VC login. But I know so little about DEs that I don't
> know if that's possible. What does a DM buy you?
>
A nice gui with lots of workspaces. Menu's to run stuff.
> > Someone has recently mentioned a new method of encrypting passwds.
> > Is it possible that something in xfce4 has changed to the new
> > method, but the passwd in the passwd file was encrypted with the
> > older method, and that an ssh login is still useing the old method,
> > so I can login remotely only? So possibly it might be fixed by an
> > apt update/upgrade? Unforch, there is nothing to upgrade:
>
> AIUI passwords are not encrypted, they're hashed.
And apparently each hash is unique? I've checked 4 machines here, and the
shadow files entry for me is different on all 4 machines.
> > copy/paste from a konsole logged into it.
> >
> > gene@picnc:~$ sudo apt update
> > [sudo] password for gene:
> > Get:1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates
> > InRelease [39.1 kB]
> > Hit:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease
> > Get:3 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease [46.8
> > kB] Get:4 http://security.debian.org/debian-security
> > buster/updates/main Sources [25.9 kB]
> > Get:5 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates/main
> > arm64 Packages [51.5 kB]
> > Get:6 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates/main
> > Translation-en [28.9 kB]
> > Fetched 192 kB in 2s (81.9 kB/s)
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > Building dependency tree
> > Reading state information... Done
> > All packages are up to date.
> > gene@picnc:~$
> >
> > But is that the proper list of repo's to query?
>
> Posting your sources.list would be more typical.
but much more difficult to copy and chown to get it in the rights for
kmail-trinity to attach or include. I have to copy them to someplace
neutral, chown the perms, as my sshnet runs as me, specifically denies
root, so once I can copy it across the cat5 to someplace in /home/gene
on this machine, then I can attach or include it.
> > Or maybe its ssh thats using the new way, and xfce4 has not caught
> > up. I haven't a clue whats changed, but it did work several times,
> > then stopped. Completely changing my passwd from this ssh login
> > worked, I backed out and tried it, worked as expected from ssh, but
> > is still rejected from its own keyboard, so I changed it back. ??
> > What library does that? Is there a version jump that arm did, but
> > got miss installed?
>
> ssh has -v (up to 3 times) for monitoring its behaviour.
>
> But are you're sure you're not thinking of something like LUKS1/LUKS2
> rather than any change in passwd hashing (which might be why you wrote
> "encrypting").
Never touched LUKS, any version.
> Cheers,
> David.
Cheers David, Gene Heskett
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