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Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]



On Tuesday 31 December 2019 05:37:54 Joe wrote:

> On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 04:37:10 -0500
>
> Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 31 December 2019 02:30:05 ghe wrote:
> > > > On Dec 30, 2019, at 05:47 PM, Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Please show the output of
> > > >
> > > >    systemctl cat YOUR_SERVICE_UNIT
> > > >
> > > > This will show all additions and overrides to the unit.
> > >
> > > root@test:~# systemctl cat ipfilter
> > > # /usr/lib/systemd/system/ipfilter.service
> > > [Unit]
> > > Description=packetFilter
> > >
> > > [Service]
> > > ExecStart=/etc/ipfilterfiles/ipfilter.sh on
> > > ExecStop=/etc/ipfilterfiles/ipfilter.sh off
> > >
> > > [Install]
> > > WantedBy=multi-user.target
> > >
> > > > Your shell script isn't really daemon, so it is normal to not
> > > > stay running after it setup the iptables rules.
> > >
> > > I guess I misunderstood the term 'daemon.' I thought it was just a
> > > piece of software that, when run, stays run until it's through --
> > > when it's started at boot and has no exit, hangs around in the
> > > background doing stuff. Unless somebody tells it to stop.
> > >
> > > This code has, under the old init system, been thinking it's a
> > > daemon for a couple decades now. But you're right. On other
> > > systemd computers, I have to start my local firewall by hand, like
> > > I have to with BIND on the DNS server.
> > >
> > > > I think your unit is missing the following:
> > > >
> > > > ,----
> > > >
> > > > | [Service]
> > > > | Type=oneshot
> > > > | RemainAfterExit=yes
> > > >
> > > > `----
> > >
> > > That makes sense. I'll insert those lines and see what happens.
> > >
> > > I knew it'd be trivial when it came to light what I was missing.
> > > Thanks a lot.
> > >
> > > (grumble, grumble, systemd, grumble, grumble)
> > >
> > > >> And how did that file get in /usr? When I wrote it, it was in
> > > >> /lib/systemd/system.
> > > >
> > > > usr-merge is the keyword here.
> > >
> > > What's that? I never heard of that before, and I certainly didn't
> > > ask for it. One of the reasons I run Debian was that the config
> > > stuff is all in /etc. And, it goes without saying, stays there.
> > >
> > > As I said before, (grumble, grumble, systemd, grumble, grumble).
> > > It seems to be pretty nicely done system code, but with an
> > > absolutely abominable user interface. So far, I know of systemd
> > > dirs in /lib, /etc, and /usr. That's no way to run a *nix
> > > railroad.
> >
> > +100 (or more)
> >
> > > While I have you on the hook, Sven, how/where did you get your
> > > systemd knowledge? I've looked around, and I haven't seen any
> > > mention of what you just told me.
> >
> > I had that same didn't start after a reboot problem, but found this
> > script started iptables ok when executed by hand as ./start-iptables
> > while root in the /etc/iptables dir.
> >
> > #!/bin/bash
> > iptables-restore <saved-rules
> >
> > And whenever I add a new rule, I resave the saved-rules with this
> >
> > #!/bin/bash
> > iptables-save >saved-rules
> >
> > A executed from /etc/iptables with ./iptables-saveem
> >
> > It seems to me, that if iptables has been intalled, there ought to
> > be a start script in /etc/init.d, or someplace in the /etc/systemd
> > path, but there is not such a critter in either path (nothing in
> > /usr, but /lib/systemd has 100 or so files) in this stretch install.
> >
> > This works, but leaves me open until I get around to starting it, so
> > I doubt its the approved method.  IMO it ought to be the first
> > active line in the ifup script so its active before the net is
> > brought up.
>
> Does iptables-persistent work for you?

It should, I just installed it. I'll have to change the name of the save 
file to match it in my other scripts, but haven't yet.

> I made my own pseudo-daemon before this existed, stealing a LFS
> skeleton, allowing multiple rulesets for various environments.


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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