Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices
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The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2019-06-25 at 09:28, Michael Stone wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 08:46:28AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>>> On 2019-06-25 at 08:11, Michael Stone wrote:
>
>>>> It isn't because: 1) the new names are predictable but not
>>>> constant, so you can't configure a single default across all
>>>> systems
>>>
>>> Which seems reasonable to describe as "unpredictable".
>>
>> They're perfectly predictable for a given system.
>
> And reasonably unpredictable between systems.
>
> Just reiterating the case where they *are* predictable misses my point
> so badly that it almost seems as if it must be intentional.
>
>> The old names also weren't constant, but people didn't seem to care
>> as much about the nuances because "that's the way it's always been".
>> (Sometimes it was an eth, sometimes it was a wlan, etc.) Why were
>> those differences ok but these differences aren't? Familiarity.
>
> No, not just familiarity.
>
> To the best of my awareness, the old names were 100% constant, as long
> as you had no more than one interface *of a given type*.
Quite so.
> [...]
> With the new names, the fact that two interfaces get different name
> prefixes (etc.) tells you basically nothing useful about how to handle
> them; it just exposes underlying hardware details of some kind, which
> you don't actually need to know in order to make effective use of those
> interfaces.
To some degree. Unless they've changed *again* (I don't follow the
"latest and greatest" changes that closely), you essentially get
"en[...]" and "wl[...]" in place of 'eth0' and 'wlan0', respectively.
That being said, the "new" names are relatively clunky to use when
working outside of "my machine here" (e.g. with users abandoning W10).
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