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Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

On Tuesday 28 August 2018 09:03:05 Mark Rousell wrote:

> On 28/08/2018 12:42, Michael Stone wrote:
> > Yes and no. NNTP is inherently open to abuse because it wasn't
> > designed with mechanisms to account for the cost of a transaction.
> > (This is true of all the early internet protocols, not just NNTP,
> > which is why we have, e.g., such a spam problem on SMTP.)
> Isn't this true of, say, HTTP too?

Yes, and in most cases spamassassin and friends are incapable of dealing 
with this. Judging any html only message as a very high probability of 
being spam. And the windows oriented idijits in charge of net services 
such as my banks online activities, aren't aware of that, so they've 
been deleting any plain text from their messages. I had a long talk with  
him just last week about how they are doing this new protocol where they 
A: don't bother to verify me when I get redirected to their servers for 
a one time code pad number to verify the authorization of my purchase.

B: I pointed out that the current method is dependant on a cookie that 
exists only on this machine, and likely this browser since palemoon has 
never worked for this.  And that this precludes my ability to goto any 
machine on my local net, fire up its browser and goto a vendors site and 
make a purchase.

I pointed out to him that he had other means of I'ding me that were both 
far more universal and would work just as well if this machine was in 
pieces and I was actually logging on from the browser on my milling 
machine in the garage.  Thats the presence of a list of security 
questions only I can answer, and which would via the https link that 
exists, give me that one time pad number without emailing it to far less 
secure a machine that is in parts on the front deck for its annual 
dusting and cleaning.

He agreed that it was at least as secure and that he would look into 
implementing it as an alternative way of identifying the account holder.

We'll see. Who was it that said words similar to "progress in driven by 
the obstinate?" I can be that, and proud of it.


Cheers, Gene Heskett
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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