Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd
On Friday 08 December 2017 13:09:06 Menelaos Maglis wrote:
> >> > Basically, it was a completely inconsistent mess before systemd.
> >> > Now you at least have a central place where you can configure
> >> > your system behaviour.
> >
> > In the past, we had *no consistency*: inittab had one thing, display
> > managers another, ACPI scripts another...if you wanted a specific
> > policy, you had to change three or more separate systems.
> >
> > Along came [a new system] which provided a single place to define a
> > consistent policy.
>
> systemd provides a single place to define a consistent policy,
> provided your system uses systemd.
Which until now I have never seen its supposed advantages touted. Maybe I
don't subscribe to the right lists?
rant mode on!
Couldn't a lot of the hatred for systemd have been avoided if it was
adequately discussed/described in the first place? Had it been
accompanied by an adequate description, and a clear but concise man
page, including how to change it if you didn't like the defaults, would
have made this take it or go run windows attitude a hell of a lot easier
to accept.
I can say the same for pam. I just read the man page for the umptyieth
time, but not a single character was devoted to how to change its
behavior, and its blocking me from doing things on jessie or stretch
that were/are Just Doable on wheezy. synaptics-pkexec for instance,
absolutely no reason I am denied that for jessie and stretch, but in
both cases I am forced to do it from the machines own keyboard even if
most any other gfx using program can be run from here over an ssh -Y
login. On a home network thats behind a firewall that has not been
penetrated in 15 years, such restrictions are the same stuff usually
found on the ground behind the male of the bovine specie.
I have previously asked how to fix that, and been /universally/ ignored.
So where do I find out how to fix that?
> In anycase, it should be a documented configuration option to allow
> for alternative use cases.
A universal wish I suspect. But it seems to be a bigger secret than the
winderz 10 source code.
I am not a migrant from the M$ camp, so quit treating me like one. The
ONLY machine I own that ever had windows on it, because 12 years ago if
you wanted a portable "lappy" you could take on the road when playing
visiting fireman at some broadcast facility that had technical fires to
be put out, you bought it with xp on it. But xp got nuked for mandrake
after I spent a week or more trying to make the windows driver actually
work with a bcm4318 radio it had. But netgear sells several usb dongles
that just work with linux.
/rant off
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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