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Re: My name, Norton Cater, email address: norton.cater@gmail.com, is on your mailing list in error- Please remove it



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On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 07:47:51AM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 10:47:01AM +0100, Floris wrote:
> > Op Tue, 05 Dec 2017 10:39:07 +0100 schreef Norton Caterq1qb
> > <norton.cater@gmail.com>:
> > 
> > > Thank you
> > > 
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > > 
> > 
> > Please read:
> > https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#subunsub
> > 
> He is probably not subscribed, but receiving spam with forged headers.
> Sadly, unsubscribing from the list won't fix that.

Posting to the list, since everyone now is chiming in.

Typically, if one of those posts seems legit, I try to answer
directly, and not to list:

 - because I don't want disturbing the ~3000 subscribers
   even more than they've already been
 - because should be the message be spam, its spam score
   probably falls when there are answers to it

I try to explain politely, but in no unmistakable terms that
only the subscriber can cancel his/her subscription, and that
(s)he just incommodated around 3k people with a request they
can't do much about. And I give hints on how to do it, and
on how to find those hints in the mails themselves (the set
of headers beginning with X-List...).

In this case, the OP seems[1] to be subscribed, as the spam
status header suggests:

  X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.0 required=4.0 tests=GMAIL,LDOSUBSCRIBER,
          LDO_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1

(this extracted from *your* posting. Notice the LDOSUBSCRIBER
test up there).

I generally hope the poster has a chance to learn
from this, and don't blow up the thread unnecessarily.

There's some risk that the OP gets a bunch of this type
of mail, but hey, (s)he has just done something where
3000 other people carry the burden, so this small risk
seems balanced to me.

In the current case, the OP actually answered (which is
more I hoped for), and I hope I could help him getting
unsubscribed.

Does that make sense? Is there a policy on that? Dunno.

Cheers

[1] Of course, these are just hints. Mail headers can
   be spoofed (I don't know how one could get that
   one past the mailing list software unnoticed, but
   there ya go)

- -- tomás
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