> It's better that your message Not arrive instead of being disclose! and
> This is the philosophy behind True P2P IM systems.
Oh, I don't need 100% absolutely guaranteed delivery.
Just some reasonable expectation that messages won't be silently dropped
on the floor in fairly normal circumstances.
E.g. some email messages just don't get delivered, for instance because
they're misflagged as spam, but I still consider email as "reliable".
As a counter example, XMPP silently drops messages in various normal
circumstances, which XEP-0198 tries to address, similarly SIP tends to
drop messages on the floor if the destination is not currently
connected. Another problem with XMPP is when you use several clients,
in which case not all clients will necessarily see all messages.
As another example, BitMessage's approach of keeping messages for
2 days, together with some way for the sender to know if the message has
been received, seems good enough.
Stefan
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> wrote:
>> > You can't have all the best together.
>>
>> What does that mean, exactly? Are you saying it doesn't have reliable
>> message delivery? If so, that'd be a deal breaker for me.
>>
>>
>> Stefan "shocked that anyone would want to design or use an
>> unreliable messaging system"
>>
>>
>> > This mention in previous E-Mails as well. E.g:
>> <20160817192400.GB9964@alum>
>>
>> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Stefan Monnier <
>> monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >> > I think you looking for TOX!
>> >> > Visit TOX Project website:
>> >> > https://tox.chat
>> >>
>> >> Thanks. That does look promising (although I don't see any mention of
>> >> reliable delivery),
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Stefan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Stefan Monnier <
>> >> monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> I'm looking for a decentralized instant message system (e.g. XMPP,
>> SIP,
>> >> >> ...) where I can be sure that I receive all messages, even if I'm not
>> >> >> connected when the message is sent [ Obviously, I'll only receive
>> them
>> >> >> when I'm back online. ]
>> >> >>
>> >> >> IIUC there is some XMPP features that allow such reliable delivery,
>> but
>> >> >> it seems that it's not widely supported by clients. What Debian
>> >> >> clients, using which protocols, can provide reliable instant
>> messaging?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Stefan
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> PS: Bonus points if that feature is also available on an Android
>> >> >> application that's Free Software.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>