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Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?



Hi,

Come on guys, the OP ask about instant messaging and mail is everything except instant messaging.

IRC with recording bot could do the job. (But it's clearly old and kind of hard to setup)

By the way, you could make a simple app based on AMQP protocol to fit your need.

Regards,


Le 31 août 2016 9:48 AM, "Joe" <joe@jretrading.com> a écrit :
On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 08:27:51 +0200
deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:

> Lisi Reisz wrote:
>
> >
> >> About reliability - I have not seen recently undelivered mails
> >> (except bounces between gmain and yahoo .
> >
> > Lucky you!
> >
> > Lisi
>
> Luck is something, that is out of scope in terms of software. Use
> authorized SMTP servers.

Who authorises them, if not the owner of the domain? Should our
governments expect to be paid for email server licences?

> This means you can not install on your linux
> box an smtp server, send an email and expect it to be delivered.

I have done so, for about fifteen years. I like it that way.

> If
> it is your provider, change it or talk to them. It is not common that
> messages are rated as spam, when they come out from legal MX records.

The MX record is not involved in sending. Many companies outsource
their anti-spamming, or for other reasons use completely different
sending and receiving servers.

What you need are complementary domain host A record and IP address
PTR records, pointing to each other, along with an ISP which doesn't
host bulk emailers and is otherwise willing to keep itself off
blacklists.

> As I said DMARC initiative is going on at the moment (and since
> couple of years) and it will affect the mailing in positive way I
> hope.

The main problem with anything like that is that many people have
relatively complex email arrangements, e.g. forwarding from a number of
email addresses to another, and these tend to get broken by security
measures. A couple of years ago my ISP, who had provided email services
based on sub-domains, outsourced them to an Exchange-based system using
the MS SPF system. I don't use the provided sub-domain, so it didn't
involve me, but there was a lot of trouble about it, and eventually the
ISP grudgingly provided another pair of MX records for a SMTP server
which did not implement this system.

Email is still a useful messaging protocol, it is somewhat broken, but
the cure absolutely must not be worse than the disease, or we'll all
end up using Facebook.

--
Joe



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