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Re: off topic Question of the day..



On Sun 10 Jul 2016 at 13:38:14 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Sunday 10 July 2016 06:34:00 deloptes wrote:
> 
> > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Anybody here got the magic incantation to keep it from shrinking the
> > > image to unusability on the paper in the two front trays?
> >
> > I doubt it shrinks the image only when paper fed from specific tray.
> > Perhaps you should think in the opposite direction - shrink the image
> > to the paper size.
> > The size of the printed image usually depends on the quality of the
> > image (and the printer capability). Think of dpi on both sides.
> > Therefore most print software offers options to influence this or
> > autofit the paper size.
> >
> > regards
> 
> But no one is actually answering the question. Yesterday I had the 
> printer requester set for A3, no clue where the backport guides are set 

"Printer requester" may mean something to you. It may mean something to
others. It means little to me.

If you mean that you are telling the printing system that the job is
being printed on A3 paper I'd understand that.

> because I cannot read black on black at the oblique angle the door is 
> allowed to open, so the guides are taped such as to allow 1/16" of slop 
> at the most. But today, I have feed the same sheet of paper thru it 
> about a dozen times without getting a single smudge of ink on it, AND 
> cup says the job sent was only 1 kilobyte, where yesterday evince was 
> sending 4.5 megabytes per printed page. So where the heck is that data 
> going, because its sure as hell not getting to the printer as anything 
> but a blank page.  I've rebooted now, and will take a look at any 
> suspect logs I can find.  Nothing there that relates to this.

If there is no printing it will have more to do with your setup than a
mechanical feature such as guides. I say that without having your model
of printer so I could be completely wrong. On the other hand, I could be
completely right.

What is not wrong is that you have an obsolete printing system. This is
not to say it shouldn't be a *working* obsolete system but it does mean
help in diagnosing the issue of not being able to print becomes a little
difficult when we have all moved on and have forgotton the details of
such systems.

> Wikipedia agrees, tabloid is 11x17 portrait, ledger is 17x11 landscape.

11x17 and 17x11 are width x height. That assumes you live in a culture
where "width" means "across" and "height" means "down".

"Landscape" and "Portrait" have no meaning in this context. You can turn
the paper though 90 degrees to get one or the other. One person's portait
tabloid piece of paper is another's landscape.

> But according to the other internet resources, 11x17 is a bastard 
> American only size.

Language, please. :)

> The printer processor, the gui I get when I click "print" in evince  
> gives me tabloid only and landscape as a separate rotational option, 
> which because tabloid is normally two facing pages 17" high & 11" to the 
> crease, I had set to landscape since its 34" long and 29 or so high 
> coming out of inkscape as a .png. Posterazor makes a 6 page pdf out of 
> it.  Evince says the pages, 6 of them, are 15.82 × 9.82 inch so no 
> wonder it was cutting so much off the edges to get a registration of one 
> page to the next yesterday.

"printer processor" would normally be called the "print dialog".
 
> So here goes, evince loaded up one more time, cups options is set for 
> 11x17, and I'll select tabloid/landscape for page 1.  
> 
> Set "current page", scale 105%, tabloid, borderless, landscape.  page 
> scaling=none on the next tab, color is vivid, but no profile specified.
> 
> Click print, printer fires up, plays with paper for about 30 seconds, 
> spits out blank sheet of paper. The cup web page says the job was 
> completed and was 1k in size.

You need to examine an error_log. Line-by-line.
 
> Two files on the system were updated yesterday after I printed the 8 
> pages I did, because 3 of the 8 missfed and lost some of the image. I 
> used one anyway.
> 
> Commit Log for Sat Jul  9 09:06:50 2016
> 
> Upgraded the following packages:
> libicu48 (4.8.1.1-12+deb7u3) to 4.8.1.1-12+deb7u4
> linuxcnc-uspace (1:2.7.4.138.g2ed2210) to 1:2.7.4.140.gb3ec66b
> 
> Says its International Components for Unicode
> The last one isn't related. But what is the function of the first one?
> 
> And I just found this in the /var/log/cups/error_log
> W [10/Jul/2016:08:15:43 -0400] Please move "SystemGroup lpadmin gene" on 
> line 2 of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to the /etc/cups/cups-files.conf file; 
> this will become an error in a future release.
> W [10/Jul/2016:08:15:43 -0400] Please move "Group sys" on line 3 
> of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to the /etc/cups/cups-files.conf file; this will 
> become an error in a future release.
> W [10/Jul/2016:08:15:43 -0400] Please move "User lp" on line 4 
> of /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to the /etc/cups/cups-files.conf file; this will 
> become an error in a future release.
> 
> So I did, but now its a total failure: bad edit, fixed.  And it still 
> doesn't work.  Acid test, print this email. Crashed kmail. Restarted, 
> mail was saved.

You needn't have done anything. This message is simply telling you what
it tells you. It has no bearing whatsoever on being able to print.

Your error_log should contain lines with "Auto", "filter" and "exited".
Please post those that do.
 
> I think I may have it sussed. Up to now I could configure a given printer 
> with different options so I had my choices of single sided, duplex etc 
> available just by calling the correct printername.  In this case I had 
> prefixed the model number with the make name.  So one is set with the ID 
> of MFCJ6920DW, and the other is set to Brother_MFC_J6920DW, and the 
> first one has an 8.5x11 portrait default, and which from the cli using 
> lp, works as normal, so that idea just got flushed.

You mean you haven't sussed it?

Snipping now. This is getting too long.


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