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Re: looking for a sound waveform viewer, but not audacity for reasons explained



Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.reisz@gmail.com):
> On Tuesday 30 June 2015 22:20:12 David Wright wrote:
> > Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.reisz@gmail.com):
> > > On Tuesday 30 June 2015 21:42:16 David Wright wrote:
> > > > Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.reisz@gmail.com):
> > > > > On Monday 29 June 2015 02:28:20 Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > > > > Dan Hitt wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Could somebody please point me to a sound waveform viewer?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm aware of audacity, which is of course a very fine piece of
> > > > > > > software.  But its function is more to edit than just to view. 
> > > > > > > So, e.g., if you open a sound file, then it wants to create a
> > > > > > > project, and when you want to exit you have to tell it not to
> > > > > > > save the project that it created.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would like to just have something that shows the waveform.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ideally it would do other tasks connected with viewing, such as
> > > > > > > being able to zoom to the sample level, give actual data readouts
> > > > > > > [sample value, time, etc], and play nice with other software.  So
> > > > > > > it would be nice, e.g., if you could pop it open at the command
> > > > > > > line and maybe even have it scroll to some interesting point. 
> > > > > > > (It would also be nice if it could play the wave form, but if it
> > > > > > > can't that's no deal breaker.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My vague recollection is that there used to be more than a dozen
> > > > > > > such viewers, but i can't seem to track any down now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > TIA for any leads!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > dan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unlikely what you were recalling but I would recommend
> > > > > > investigating scilab, scioslab, and gnuplot
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They are EXPLICITLY tools rather than SOLUTIONS.
> > > > >
> > > > > And there are the answer to the question how?  He explicitly wanted a
> > > > > SOUND waveform viewer, with playing the sound a bonus.  I know Maths
> > > > > and sound are linked, but this seems going a bit far.
> > > >
> > > > Well, it's in the list at
> > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Waveform_Viewers-Plotting_Large_Analog_Data
> > > > which might be worth perusing (third hit when googling   interactive
> > > > waveform plotting   )
> > >
> > > From there:
> > > -----------------------------
> > > A situation often occurs, where the user ends up with some sort of a
> > > large dataset that needs to be visualised and analysed. Examples of this
> > > include: [snip]
> > > data from statistical or mathematical analysis (using, say, R or scilab);
> > > --------------------------------------
> > > That is  not sound.
> > >
> > > Lisi
> > > PS though the page does indeed also include sound wave plotters.
> >
> > Scilab appears in section 2 as a generator of large datasets. Many
> > authors of such a page wouldn't have bothered with section 2 at all,
> > but happily this author generated a batch of data to test the software
> > listed in section 3 (making it easier to try out other ideas we might
> > have).
> >
> > Were one to play the waveform generated, it might not be very
> > pleasant. It looks to me vaguely like someone trying to tune a
> > superhet radio while simultaneously turning up the volume to annoy
> > the neighbours.
> >
> > The meat of the page is section 3 which contains, amongst the
> > competition, scilab.
> >
> > Scilab was a legitimate suggestion given that the OP wasn't very
> > specific about the problem area. For example, what is an "interesting
> > point"? However, a deal breaker might be the reviewer's inability to
> > perform synchronous zooms on multichannel data in scilab.
>  "Sound" seems to me to be pretty specific.

Yes, and "sound" is specifically mentioned on that page, but you
snipped it in your quotation above. It says:

-----------------------------
A situation often occurs, where the user ends up with some sort of a
large dataset that needs to be visualised and analysed. Examples of this
include:

    typical audio files          ←---------- [snipped]

    data from statistical or mathematical analysis (using, say, R or scilab);
--------------------------------------

Why do "typical audio files" fail your "sound" check?
Or are you philosophising? :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_a_tree_falls_in_a_forest

Cheers,
David.


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