Re: Jessie sufficiently stable for general use?
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Fri, 06 Mar 2015, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> >
> >> Brian wrote:
> >>> On Fri 06 Mar 2015 at 09:27:23 -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, 06 Mar 2015, Ken Heard wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thanks everybody for the collected wisdom. So for me now Jessie
> >>>>> RC1 is it.
> >>>> FYI: Do daily updates using dist-upgrade, instead of upgrade (or
> >>>> the equivalent with aptitude, if you use that). Things change
> >>>> quickly and sometimes majorly on the path to Stable. You'll want
> >>>> to get ALL those changes -- minor and major. "Upgrade" won't do
> >>>> that. This is recommended by Debian. Once Jessie is Stable,
> >>>> revert to "upgrade" for the most part.
> >>> I agree with everything but the final sentence. Stable is unlikely
> >>> to pull in any new packages but if it does you will likely need
> >>> them. In other words, 'dist-upgrade' should be the norm for
> >>> stable.
> >>>
> >> Somehow, anything that needs daily updates, or upgrades, does not
> >> meet any definition of "stable" that I'm familiar with.
> > As far a Debian is concerned, you have the incorrect definition of
> > "stable." With Debin "Stable" means "unchanging," without serious
> > bugs, not less prone to crash. It's confusing, I agree. I wish a
> > different term had been chosen.
>
> I think the question was quite clear as to meaning - the OP asked is
> Jessie (i.e., Debian stable), stable (in the plain English use of the
> word) enough for general use. Not confusing at all.
In my reply to the OP (not the one above to you), I said that Jessie,
even as an RC1, was suitable for general use. But that daily
update/dist-upgrades were necessary to keep it so as it made its way
toward Stable.
FWIW, the Jessie Beta1 I installed (terminal only) in a VM months ago
has had no problems. And I've dist-upgraded it only twice. I've even
converted it to sysvinit. Not even a hiccup. My intent was to
ultimately convert to runit and runitinit for testing, but only
installed runit. No problems. As far as runitinit, that conversion's
been on the backburner for weeks.
> >
> > [snip]
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